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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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Please people just stop posting.
The more you lot post, the less I think you all have a clue about how films are made or the industry itself or film marketing, which again is pretty frightening considering how much you bang on about them.
Firstly, look at the original trailers for DK - virtually no major plot is given away in those eithers. Shit, you could have made a trailer solely for the first 20 min long heist opening sequence and you still have 80% of the film left over to explain.
Nolan purposefully does not do a Michael Bay and jizz the plot all over your pitifully expectant faces in a 30 second trailer months before the film comes out.
And yes, GSG is also right, when you're releasing the third film, after the first was a massive success and the second was one of the biggest grossing films of all time (and a multiple record holder), nolan could just flash the bat symbol with a date up on a screen for a couple of seconds and millions would still turn out to watch it.
The voice thing? Fuck, I don't know where to begin. It's part of the costume so he's not just Bruce wayne in rubber. And on the technical side of things, it's a little more complicated than "EQ". He's actually dubs the voice pretty close to that lower register and then they compress, eq and chorus it. It's a specific FX chain on a theatrical voice over performance.
Finally, it's not a trilogy
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May-01-2012 20:49
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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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quote: | Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
Yeah, my point was that this is still quite unusual in context of today's film marketing practice. It's not just Bay; most of the trailers for new movies cover at least 2 acts of the story - in some of them, like in the one for A Dangerous Method, you see almost the whole damn thing. I don't have to be an industry insider to notice this.
Since you're so knowledgeable about all this, isn't it true that directors often don't have any control over what gets shown in the trailers? From what I've read these things are decided by other people who don't even have to be involved in production of the actual film. |
Completely depends. For instance with Bruckheimer, nothing airs without at least their approval, and with Bay, he executive produces the trailers himself. Total control freak.
Other directors let the studio do them (i.e. "I don't want to think about it - you do it") and others actually have no say in the matter - this is often a case of the studio being in command and marketing the film the best way they see fit.
One thing you have to compute is that when the first and even second wave of theatrical trailers are made, the film isn't even close to a final draft edit.
On Iron Man, none of the CGI had even been finished (it was all greenscreen picture or big colored block frames in place of FX) when the first traler went out - ILM had to rush just those few scenes to a finished state so the trailer could distribute, and they weren't even close to a finished product (3-6 months away).
Another problem is score - most people don't realise that the score is the very last thing that gets created and added. When the first trailer comes out for most films, the composer has probably only just scratched out the basic themes; no orchestra recordings have been done, no mixing, no overdubs etc. Usually, they just have to hash together the main theme with samples and add a lot of taikos and booms/FX/sound design.
So the short answer is, if it's one of the big name directors (bay, Howard, Favreau, etc) then chances are they are heavily involved in at least artistic approval of the trailers (of course there are exceptions). If not a big name or it's really a studio created vehicle (rather than the personal project of a director/producer/writer) then more than likely the studio solely creates it or even subs it out.
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May-01-2012 22:49
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Meat187
Diese scheiß Katze
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: The Night's Plutonian Shore
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May-02-2012 04:31
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ShabbaRANNx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Hollywould
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quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
You forgot the extensive use of the flux capacitor and the offset matter / anti-matter ratio. Seriously, no one gives a fuck there DJ Flock of Seagulls. The point is that it was overdone and annoying in Dark Knight and they need to scale it back a bit on this one. |
Oh great, you're mixing back to the future with star trek references.
You do fucking realise you're on an EDM forum where people actually *might* just know what the fuck they are talking about before instead of just vomit-posting some BS about "EQ"?
Or was all the intelligence used up when selecting an screen name? Oh, obviously not.
Again, it's the whole point - he's not the same person. You may not like it, but it's all on purpose.
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May-02-2012 05:00
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