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WittyHandle
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I've got a friend that thinks that the Icarus speech at the end was directed at Jesse, but it seemed pretty clearly pointed at Mike to me for taking all the money. What say you?

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It's another brilliant strategy in an episode that was all about Walter manipulating people: manipulating Marie into feeling sorry for him and less of Skylar (with the truth! no less), manipulating Junior into thinking his happy family is restored as they watch Scarface, manipulating Jesse into dumping Andrea, and manipulating Mike into thinking he could ever be anything other than Heisenberg's employee.

Those posters were right, "All hail the king." And it really is time Mike realized who's boss and that he can't MAKE Walter pay hush money to people he's never even met.

Old Post Aug-01-2012 16:48  Canada
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WittyHandle
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I don't think Walt has manipulated Mike into anything he doesn't want to do. It fels to me like he's leaning on Jesse to side with him over Mike since so far Pinkman just wants to keep things cool between everyone.

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I've got a friend that thinks that the Icarus speech at the end was directed at Jesse, but it seemed pretty clearly pointed at Mike to me for taking all the money. What say you?


I felt that it was directed at Jesse, in reaction to his having forced Walt's hand w/r/t paying the hush money. It was pretty obvious, at least to me, that there was no way they would get around paying the hush money - it's part of business - but when Jesse suggested that he'd just pay all of it, Walt, in order to remain The Man, had no option but to say "no. i'll pay my share." I think he knew that he'd have to pay, but wanted to gain some leverage from the situation. Jesse got in the way of him gaining leverage over Mike, ergo he was sure to let Jesse know that he, Walt, was still the boss, and Jesse shouldn't act that way / even think about flying to high.

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I really hope Mike kills Walter.


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This all makes sense. And the door closing on Jesse at the end sure made it seems like it was directed at him as well. I guess I just couldn't see why since my take on the money scene was that Jesse was just trying to eliminate tension, not gain any sense of power. However, I can see now how Walt took it the way he did.

And if anything, I hope it's Jesse that pulls the trigger on Walt in the end.

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As for Gus slitting his goon's throat, it always struck me as a way of tying up loose ends, since he admitted he was seen at Gale's after the shooting. The sending a message to Walt felt like a byproduct he capitalized on.

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Cooking in a tented house is genius. If Walt and Jesse ever get in trouble they can always just torch the house, and find another.


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Walt is gonna kill Skyler


she just needs to go away, don't care how!


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and about the threat at the end of the last episode, if they do kill Mike, i just dont think they will be able to run the business... we all know how good they were before Gus came along lol

unless they get an offer from another cartel which would def make them kill mike, which might be the explanation from the opening scene of this season


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It'd be a nice ending for Jesse to find out what Walt did with the poisonous flowers/berries, and then kills him. God I hate Walt.


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This show is fucking amazing

Every episode gets better and better.

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