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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

As a matter of fact, for the category of tequila that is, it must be aged from 12 - 36 months. Anything longer is considered Extra Anejo, and it tends to be quite smooth and sweet due to the way agave ferments over such a long period of time- I've heard this is considered a kind of 'new' process, so they can't claim it's a traditional tequila, as the Extra Anejo category wasn't even designated until the last decade or so.

Tequila isn't like scotch or cognac in the aging process. In any case, nothing ages after it's put in a bottle anyway, so even if your great grand pappy left you his bottle of ancient scotch, it would still be basically the same thing as when it was bottled.


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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

Of course it does. Wine can go through drastic changes in a bottle over a period of time.

I was just laughing at it because it's funny, especially when you compare it to scotch which can often be aged for 25 year or more. I didn't say it was bad, just how ridiculous it sounds.


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Sushipunk
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
/igk humour?


lol


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Of course it does. Wine can go through drastic changes in a bottle over a period of time.

I was just laughing at it because it's funny, especially when you compare it to scotch which can often be aged for 25 year or more. I didn't say it was bad, just how ridiculous it sounds.


So what the fuck do you propose to call the process?

Longening? Timining?

Pretty sure you have to use the term aging. Just because one takes longer than the other doesn't mean one is better or not. Its comparing apples to oranges.

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Of course it does. Wine can go through drastic changes in a bottle over a period of time.

I was just laughing at it because it's funny, especially when you compare it to scotch which can often be aged for 25 year or more. I didn't say it was bad, just how ridiculous it sounds.


You're right, wine is an exception (and an exceptional exception, at that!) but most people suppose spirits to still age well beyond their actual maturation (the barrel process) and equate the actual shelf age of the spirit to its taste and further, it's price. To my understanding, this just isn't right, and it's a way for vendors to kind of market to an ignorant clientele with way too much money to spend. You can see a 50-year old Scotch selling for $800 for example, but if it was only truly aged in its barrel for 10 years... you might be overpaying by quite a bit. I'm not 100% sure this applies to all liquors, it's just what I've gathered from reading a bit and talking purveyors who profess to know what they're talking about.

I'd love to be wrong though, if someone could tell me otherwise...


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Fledz
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Spot on Hal. Like many things in life, a lot of it is marketing hype. I would like to think that anyone who is buying an expensive bottle though is actually doing some proper research. It's easy to do these days with the internet.

Then again, some people are so cashed up that they just don't care.


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Lews
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
You're right, wine is an exception (and an exceptional exception, at that!) but most people suppose spirits to still age well beyond their actual maturation (the barrel process) and equate the actual shelf age of the spirit to its taste and further, it's price. To my understanding, this just isn't right, and it's a way for vendors to kind of market to an ignorant clientele with way too much money to spend. You can see a 50-year old Scotch selling for $800 for example, but if it was only truly aged in its barrel for 10 years... you might be overpaying by quite a bit. I'm not 100% sure this applies to all liquors, it's just what I've gathered from reading a bit and talking purveyors who profess to know what they're talking about.

I'd love to be wrong though, if someone could tell me otherwise...


You're wrong

The thing is, though, what type of ageing we're talking about. One of the major points of ageing in barrels is to impart special characteristics and flavor from the barrels into the drink. Clearly that isn't going to happen once the liquid is placed into glass, but there will still be other chemical reactions occurring within the drink. Now it is true that many liquors won't age in the bottle to a high degree, due to the metal caps used to seal them, though once they've been opened that's a different story. However, like wine, liquors that have a cork stopper will slowly age in the bottle (to a higher degree than the metal sealed ones), even without opening, as small amounts of air will be entering.

That all said, of course, a lot of ageing is just marketing hype. I'd say it's safe to say that the Patron ageing is exactly that.

I'd also wager a bet (just a guess, nothing to really back this up) that clearer liquids would probably age less due to having less chemicals involved. I would never put a bottle of vodka down for 10 years, but would consider it with a good scotch or bourbon. The problem is, of course, waiting


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Dykes_on_Jay
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my friend convinced me to go to an AA meeting. can't wait to see what a chinese AAmeeting is all about. i hope they serve lead and melamine...stay thirsty my friends.

pre drinking in anticipation .

roman powa!


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Jay, we've had uhhh... well yea I don't think either of us like each other much, but man you should go to AA probably. You've been drunk for like 6 weeks straight.

I think you have culture shock or something, I am not sure, but obviously moving to China has totally sent you into a drinking spiral. Seek help...

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Dykes_on_Jay
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hey man, i'm doing it aren't i? once the higher power nonsense comes out though, i will probably crack open a beer lol. i am most certainly an alkie, albeit a functional one(never miss work). 3rd world countries are hard. i'm stuck here for a month while my heart is back home.

it ain't easy being a situation amongst savages.


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cockroaches the size of your fist. on the menu at fancy restaurants.


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To be fair, I'd say most of us (who post in this thread frequently) are probably functional alcoholics.

That said, I hope the meeting is helpful. You take care of yourself over there


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