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SystematicX1
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
First I would ask you this question -> What do you have on master channel?

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Sorry for some spelling issues man in previous post lol - Yeah, I'm going to ask you why are you using Saturator on master channel, also you are squashing your sound a bit too much by this compressor and in this case you may have to control levels and EQ in individual channels rather then master channel to create some space between different sounds.

You can use spectrum analyzer to nicely balance your EQ (in individual channels) - everything depends on number of instruments you are using and how you going to layer them.

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SystematicX1
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Sorry for some spelling issues man in previous post lol - Yeah, I'm going to ask you why are you using Saturator on master channel, also you are squashing your sound a bit too much by this compressor and in this case you may have to control levels and EQ in individual channels rather then master channel to create some space between different sounds.

You can use spectrum analyzer to nicely balance your EQ (in individual channels) - everything depends on number of instruments you are using and how you going to layer them.

Darek


Thanks man, I guess I was using the Sat for just that little extra dirt on the mix. I didnt see any clipping so I felt it was ok. Guess not =O(
I'll have a play on that compressor and may even just dropit and go with the trusty ol sausage fatty


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Richard Butler
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Any good in this?




2.37+ is good, but it needs better mixing as some sounds are taking over here n there


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chris marsh
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Ok so I am keeping on this one and think I may have got something with it.
Attempted to work on the over sharpness of overall tonality
Kick and Snare are "better" but still need to bring some brightness out on that snare I think
Sub is much better on this mix and better gelling than before, I think lol



i think it sounds better, and i really like the music. I agree its all a little too bright - its the "ying and yang" of mixing - if everything is bright then nothing is really bright

EDIT. I think its the main lead/bass that is the biggest problem. too harsh and bright. it would prolly be fatiguing on a big soundsystem

The plucks sound really nice and i dig the ambience you have going on

I just think ou need to work on EQ. its great to saturate and boost souds, but you need to clean them up first (and maybe after too) otherwise the other stuff you dont want gets boosted too

Aslo look around the 4k region, as thats sometimes where that harshness hits our ears most

ill have another listien later


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chris marsh
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
First of all Chris I really appreciate your time and suggestions man - I know that a lot of things depend on producer personal taste and his vision for his work, so some of us will try to do different things to achieve desire results - in my case I like to play with reverb, auto-pan, simply delay and stereo image to expose current or active instrument/sound. My goal is to create adequate space between all of my sounds and work on special sounds theme (like specific blend of sounds for particular vibe of the track) to get to certain melodic state for my production - if this make any sense

Please let me know if there is something specific you would like me to go through man?



thanks for the tips mate

another one i heard the other day is boosting mids/highs of a sound using a Mid/side EQ. Boost the sides while cutting the middle


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MSZ
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well this is about finished now. Ive taken on board your suggestions, what do you reckon?

AM very keen to move on now, feel like ive learnt quite a lot from this one, quite a learning curve dealing with the whole mid bass thing.






Trying to return the ear-listen, had to go a few pages back. This is pretty top notch dont think anyone can fault it. If I were to play god I'd infuse the arrangement with more atmospherics where there is not. You're using harmor for those bass rips?

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chris marsh
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Trying to return the ear-listen, had to go a few pages back. This is pretty top notch dont think anyone can fault it. If I were to play god I'd infuse the arrangement with more atmospherics where there is not. You're using harmor for those bass rips?



thanks dude, thats really nice to hear - especially from such a good producer as yourself

i heard it so much i got sick of it and it started to sound like crap to me

unfortunately the garage label i had a few releases on back when i was producing before (about 3 years back) seems to have stopped putting stuff out and the guy wont return my messages. shame as i did 2 tracks especially for him

i don't have the energy to try and find some other little (but decent) label so ill just finish it up at some point, get it mastered and put it for free DL



The bass is all done in serum, fantastic synth, defo in my top 2 at the moment. that an FM8. FM is unreal for bass, so much control over the harmonics - in that sense it is far superior to the other types i understand - but its taking me a long time to get to grips with it.

I used adpativerb a lot for the atmospherics in that one, amazing plug in never seen anything like it

thanks again much appreciated


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SystematicX1
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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
i think it sounds better, and i really like the music. I agree its all a little too bright - its the "ying and yang" of mixing - if everything is bright then nothing is really bright

EDIT. I think its the main lead/bass that is the biggest problem. too harsh and bright. it would prolly be fatiguing on a big soundsystem

The plucks sound really nice and i dig the ambience you have going on

I just think ou need to work on EQ. its great to saturate and boost souds, but you need to clean them up first (and maybe after too) otherwise the other stuff you dont want gets boosted too

Aslo look around the 4k region, as thats sometimes where that harshness hits our ears most

ill have another listien later


EQ EQ EQ.....Cheers Chris appreciate that!


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MSZ
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pfft im not very good chris, other people can provide better input than me here. Its nice to separate yourself away from the music emotionally but that takes a lot of time in the mean time this thread will do. I dont exactly have the most ideal listening reference equipment just FYI.

since I dont see any music to comment on, I guess ill post another one. I scrapped my older one and it turned into this, basically more overly happy music to combat my sadness. Dont know where to go with melodies and arrangement for now, its probably too saturated.

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pfft im not very good chris, other people can provide better input than me here. Its nice to separate yourself away from the music emotionally but that takes a lot of time in the mean time this thread will do. I dont exactly have the most ideal listening reference equipment just FYI.

since I dont see any music to comment on, I guess ill post another one. I scrapped my older one and it turned into this, basically more overly happy music to combat my sadness. Dont know where to go with melodies and arrangement for now, its probably too saturated.



yes mate, beautiful stuff

couple of crits, drums ever so slightly getting lost, maybe a little more mid on the kick so it stays upfront?

that big lead in the break, would love to hear a little bit more reverb on that, just for the epic feels

maybe you could introduce a subtle arp somewhere but they can chew up the space, i quite like it the way it is


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quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
pfft im not very good chris, other people can provide better input than me here. Its nice to separate yourself away from the music emotionally but that takes a lot of time in the mean time this thread will do. I dont exactly have the most ideal listening reference equipment just FYI.

since I dont see any music to comment on, I guess ill post another one. I scrapped my older one and it turned into this, basically more overly happy music to combat my sadness. Dont know where to go with melodies and arrangement for now, its probably too saturated.



Hey Mac do you have reverb on your bass line?

I really like your atmosphere in this production man also this nice sublime melody and the way you are unwinding it - very cool work.

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