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CranberryJuice
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Le Mans (my new shithole) -France

when i think during the summer 04 swede danced on gunther .....

but they have abba and ikea i've read something funny about the big boss of ikea we don't really know how rich he is ....some ppl say he's richer than bill gates but this guy is soo greedy that one of his fav activity is to visit ikea's shops all over the world and when he does in sweden ....well he takes the bus so it's less expensive that's lame


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Psy-T
Oblique memories



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

well, i've been trying to avoid the draft since forever, failing to do so, i tried to get out of the service for my entire first year;

approaching the date of the draft, i was summoned to take some tests and a physical exam for the army: the test seemed (and was) so easy to me, i felt it would be insulting to myself to cheat through out the entire thing (in order to get a low score and be less desireable to the army), so i took it as any other test (AKA easy contribution to ego), in other words, my ego got the better of me...

i finished the test in 20something minutes (while everyone else took more than 3 hours), i asked to see a mental health officer (those officers are the people most qualified to discharge people from the army, and often they do so just because of excess man power, using some minor mental illness as an excuse, whether the person actually has it or not; it's usually very easy to get discharged by them, especially if you don't want to serve) and he interviewed me, i told him i don't want to serve and gave him many reasons for it (lack of patriotism being a main one); basically i told him the truth.

he didn't discharge me

i was propositioned to join the intelligence core, which involves signing to be a soldier for 2 extra years (at higher pay than the regular service), i told them to go fuck themselves...

skipping forward a few months to the draft:

from my first moment in the drafting bureau i bitched to see another mental health officer (let's just call them MHO's for the rest of the post), they sent me to boot camp without seeing another MHO;

at boot camp i refused to follow any order that didnt seem logically beneficial (in some cases, this required arguing till they got tired of it [i never get tired of arguments myself ]) - using some rule to my advantage "at boot camp, if you don't 'understand' an order, ask your commander about it, and do not perform it until you are presented with an explanation", after a few days, as the rest of my 'class' became more weary, they started to follow my behaviour rather than the orders; as a result, i was on one hand charged with inciting rebellion, and on the other hand, propositioned to take on advanced officer training to become an officer (also requires extra years).

i won the 'trial' on the basis that i wasn't advising anyone to follow my behaviour, and generally not communicating with anyone at all, and obviously, i rejected the officer position.

according to the rules, they must provide me with an MHO in 14 days since i request to see one at most; when the 14th day came, they didnt let me see anyone, but they sent us home for the weekend; i stayed home for the entire following week and was declared AWOL, and headed back to the base only with the promise of seeing an MHO immediately on arrival.

i told this MHO a different story, one about excessive paranoias [which i didnt really have], but he shot me down too.

i was trialed for being AWOL, and got off with one of the lowest sentences, it's called something like intense-scolding, and in effect it only means i won't rise above the rank of private for at least 2 years.

from that time on, i tried a different MHO every 14 days, sometimes using a previous story, somtimes using a new one, this went on for about 5 months (boot camp took only 7 more days), and was repeatedly shot down; also, the intelligence core kept insisting i join them. i took these two facts and figured i am some kind of a prizeless possession to the army - regardless of my desires, and realized i will have to fight a lot harder than most.

this went on for my first 6-7 months in the army, my service scheme at the time was 9.5 hours a day (from 8am sharp to 17:30), or 11.5 a day including transportation, being home every night, and doing guard duty (32 hours at the base, or if on the weekend - the entire weekend plus sunday) once or twice per month.

during this time i hassled the base's commander a lot to recommend me for discharge, but he wouldn't budge.

then i couldn't take it anymore and went AWOL, i was AWOL for around 90 days before i was captured by renegade hunters (military police soldiers), after which i was sentenced 55 days in jail (which were in effect 47 days after a 5 day reduction for 'good behvaiour' [default], and a 3 day 'vacation').

in the jail i tried the MHO's again to no avail.

when i got out of jail i went back to the base and had a new commanding officer, i told him i won't be able to get back to the same routine i was in, and i'm planning to resume being AWOL. he offered me a different arrangement: i come to work (that's what i call the army nowadays) every day at 8am and leave at noon. i told him i can give it a shot, but if it gets too grinding i'll resume my original plan (which is in effect to do the AWOL-jail cycle until the army gets sick of me, the likeliness of a discharge theoretically increases exponentially with the time being spent at home and at jail).

as the weeks went by my arrangement got smaller and smaller, to a point where i'd arrive at 11am and leave at 12 noon every day.

after a few months my commanding officer was discharged and replaced, the new one understood the arrangement and even allowed me more liberty (coming when i want, staying to work anywhere between half an hour and 2 hours, and leaving; no guard duty whatsoever; exempt of the rule disallowing soldiers to walk about with headphones on their head).

but a few weeks ago, 2 years (and 1 month) since i was drafted, i got sick of that too (as i expected), aswell as being summoned for a newly created duty which is completely useless and involves staying at the base for 1 whole week every 6 weeks; i discussed it with my commanding officer, and he could not exempt me from it (this duty was designed so all the people exempt from other duties will have to do it, and there is no way to get an exemption from it).

leading to me going AWOL yet again, i was AWOL since the 5th this month, and returned on thursday of last week. my commander did not report me to the authorities as AWOL, hence i wasn't charged with anything when i got back; i basically told him the whole story (plus what i could remember of my stories to the MHO's aswell as the actual reasons for not wanting to serve) we brainstormed and came up with several solutions together:
1. i come to work twice a week, stay for anywhere between 2 and 4 hours, and leave.
2. i come to work 4 days a week, but stay no longer than an hour per day.
3. i do some form of community service in accordance with suggestions 1.
4. i do some form of community service in accordance with suggestion 2.
5. he recommends me for a discharge.
6. back to the AWOL-jail cycle till someone sensible discharges me.

we talked again yesterday, and he told me he decided to recommend me to be discharged, to my infinite happiness

now we have to wait till the base's comander returns to the base two weeks from now, so we can start the beaurocracy of it. but perheps we will wait longer, because the base's commander is really against the idea of discharging me (in particular), and might impede our plans with great effect, as well as requesting the next base commander (who will replace him in 4 months) to do the same.

so, it might take 4 months, but those will pass much more smoothly, both because my service will be easier than it already was, and because the end is near.

and finally, my ego won't have to suffer the shame of failing one of the (currently) most important goals of my life: to get discharged!


ah, gotta love happy endings


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Psy-T
Oblique memories



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

woah, that's one huge mutha of a post

i'm not even sure i wrote it


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St_Andrew
I <3 NYC



Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Wow, quite a story! Glad it seems like you got out of it now though!

Why didn't you just go for it though? Advanced officer training could probably be cool? Better than going between home and jail anyway?

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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Who knows. Apart from a few unverified incidents from back in the 70s, Swedish humour is as of yet still an unconfirmed phenomenon.


Oh you don't know what you are missing out on! TV shows such as Hipp Hipp, prettty much everything with Killingänget, etc, there are tons of good swedish humor

Edit: You danes actually made me laugh pretty hard today! Someone linked me to this picture:


Bøgballe is apparentely a Danish town/village, but in Swedish it means "Gay-cock", which I thought was rather hillarious. I so wanna visit that town

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CranberryJuice
In my Peanut Car



Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Le Mans (my new shithole) -France

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew

Bøgballe is apparentely a Danish town/village, but in Swedish it means "Gay-cock", which I thought was rather hillarious. I so wanna visit that town


it's obvious u wanna visit this town erik ....as long as u can get some buttseckz


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Old Post Mar-27-2006 23:08  France
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Echo of Silence
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: corner of the garden

lol,Erik, bøg is a kind of tree. I think in English, it is beech tree, maybe?

Great post, Mr Psy-T. As usual, you are A W E S O M E!


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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thats an awesome story psy-t! well done and good work. reminded me of the movie \'office space\' in parts, lol.

very interesting indeed. couldnt think of anything worse than compulsory service and im glad youve managed to find yourself a way out.


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tathi
wanderlust



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Sydney

congrats Psy-T, so are you going to go on one of those round the world trip benders like all the other Israelis who get out of the military?

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Tathi, check out James Holden's Balance 005. It's pretty interesting.

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yeap got it, unarguably one of the best CDs ever made. Seeing Holden next month, his new CD at the controls is meant to be amazing. You should also check out the other Balances, you will probably like Anthony Pappa Balance 004. Chris Fortiers and Desyns balance are incredible. God my desyn one signed

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tathi
wanderlust



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Sydney

i would pay to watch a reality TV show where PKC has to try and get out of military service. fuck taht would be good

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Psy-T
Oblique memories



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
congrats Psy-T, so are you going to go on one of those round the world trip benders like all the other Israelis who get out of the military?


nah, i'll use the resource of the internet to determine where i want to live my life, work & save up enough money for living there for 3 months at the least plus some immediate purchases that i'll have to do, and get to it; mind you, i'm in no rush, the easy life is here and it's to be enjoyed.


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tathi
wanderlust



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Sydney

i like your style, living for an extended period of time in another country is far more rewarding than travelling through another country. Go live in India for a year, cheap as shit and it would be a huge culture shock!

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