Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
I've always respected Shotokan Karate, and it's predecessor Okinawan Karate:
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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller
Oct-07-2008 22:14
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
A short history of Okinawan Karate:
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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller
Oct-07-2008 22:18
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
A pretty neat variation of Jujitsu, "Quantum" Jujitsu:
I'm not trained much in grappling or ground fighting, but some of the techniques looked pretty neat to me. Any comments or critiques Q as you did Jujitsu?
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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller
Oct-08-2008 07:38
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
why would you raisins in oatmeal cookies? it's stupid.
Oct-08-2008 14:16
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm not trained much in grappling or ground fighting, but some of the techniques looked pretty neat to me. Any comments or critiques Q as you did Jujitsu?
i have a couple of good mates that are big into brazilian jujitsu. one of them almost represented australia in judo in beijing(disqualified, excessive contact ha). you should definitely look into it, it will make you a more rounded fighter. there's no good being awesome on your feet if your opponent has brought you down.
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Oct-09-2008 03:16
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
When you are on the ground grappling is OK, but in real life it is much better to bite throat, eye gouge, crush testicles, etc...
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Originally posted by Zild
When you are on the ground grappling is OK, but in real life it is much better to bite throat, eye gouge, crush testicles, etc...
yeah, but having a good grasp of BJJ will prevent your opponent from doing that to you
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Oct-09-2008 04:01
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, but having a good grasp of BJJ will prevent your opponent from doing that to you
I've always seen BJJ as more of a chess match than anything else. If someone has no regard for the rules they can walk up grab your king, flip you over and shove it up your ass if that is what they feel like doing. But there are rules against that.
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I've never been able to eat a whole baby.
Kill the women. Eat the children.
It's just one of those days where you want to bend over everyone you know and kiss their ass goodbye with a big sideways boot.
Originally posted by Zild
I've always seen BJJ as more of a chess match than anything else. If someone has no regard for the rules they can walk up grab your king, flip you over and shove it up your ass if that is what they feel like doing. But there are rules against that.
yeah, that's a fair point. but its hard to do when they have torn your leg off at the ankle
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Oct-09-2008 04:12
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, that's a fair point. but its hard to do when they have torn your leg off at the ankle
Yeah in principle, but i'm talking about in practice, and only going by the experiences I've lived through.
A guy I go shooting with does BJJ regularly however I know for a fact that I could smash him down to the size of a basketball and slam dunk his ass with minimal effort.
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I've never been able to eat a whole baby.
Kill the women. Eat the children.
It's just one of those days where you want to bend over everyone you know and kiss their ass goodbye with a big sideways boot.
Originally posted by Zild
I've always seen BJJ as more of a chess match than anything else. If someone has no regard for the rules they can walk up grab your king, flip you over and shove it up your ass if that is what they feel like doing.
+1
all the technique mean nothing in a "real" street fight...
if the first person to get the first shot lands it, you could be fucking bruce hard as mustard lee and get owned...
the last thing on my mind when it goes down is fucking rules, I would just assume kick them in the balls and have at them fucking eyes balls when they wince in pain.... fuck all that rules shit
but then again, I personally stay away from fights.....nor do I want people to know what I know, but the internet breeds tough guys
so yeah,
what??
huh??
too much puff today...
Oct-09-2008 18:24
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i have a couple of good mates that are big into brazilian jujitsu. one of them almost represented australia in judo in beijing(disqualified, excessive contact ha). you should definitely look into it, it will make you a more rounded fighter. there's no good being awesome on your feet if your opponent has brought you down.
Yeah, that definetly true. I learned that the first time I sparred with a friend of mine who trained in Valetudo, Boxing, Judo, Muy Thai and some Philipino style who's name I don't recall (and he's a bit of a monster as far as size and strength go). When it came to the groud he clearly knew exactly what he was doing and all I could think was "oh fuck" . Don't worry, our system is pretty well rounded. It's got everything from striking, grappling, groundfighting to weapons. I just need to spend more time doing those. My reasons for doing kung fu, other than when I started, has always been all the benefits unrelated to combat (I'm not saying it's not important to train for combat, just not my primary purpose of doing it ).
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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."-Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller