Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
tranceaddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Political Chillout Thread
Pages (590): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 [64] 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC



Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

quote:
Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
why?


he is ashamed of us

Old Post May-24-2005 22:41  Europe
Click Here to See the Profile for St_Andrew Click here to Send St_Andrew a Private Message Visit St_Andrew's homepage! Add St_Andrew to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DrUg_Tit0
e^(i*pi)+1=0



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
he is ashamed of us


Yeah, it's like posting on TA is like having a bad habit you don't want anyone to find out about. Like doing drugs, or raping cattle..Or just doing drugs if you're from Sweden...


___________________
1+1=10

Old Post May-24-2005 23:02  Croatia
Click Here to See the Profile for DrUg_Tit0 Click Here to Email DrUg_Tit0 Click here to Send DrUg_Tit0 a Private Message Add DrUg_Tit0 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Dervish
Your opinion matters.



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Wick, Scotland

^ lol, my mates take the piss out of me when they see me on here

Old Post May-24-2005 23:24 
Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish Click here to Send Dervish a Private Message Add Dervish to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
George Smiley
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London

Ah one exam tomorrow then freedom!!

Well, not exactly, I have 12,000 words to write over summer (but that can wait til August!)

Old Post May-25-2005 00:56  England
Click Here to See the Profile for George Smiley Click here to Send George Smiley a Private Message Add George Smiley to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Dervish
Your opinion matters.



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Wick, Scotland

Lucky shit...... 3 for me next week and a CW for friday. Then project.

Old Post May-25-2005 01:10 
Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish Click here to Send Dervish a Private Message Add Dervish to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
trancaholic
Danish Prophet of Doom



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
he is ashamed of us

Only you my kinky friend. Only you.

Nah, I'm not ashamed of anything that I do when I'm sober. The reasons why I'm hesitant to introduce any friends to TA, is as follows: First, I think that PDD and the local forums are the only interesting places on TA, and I don't have any close friends in any area where there is a local forum, so that leaves only the PDD.
So why don't I introduce people to PDD? Well, I'm unable to see any advantages in introducing them, but only a number of potential problems, where my opinions, my RL-friendship, and my allegiance to the etiquette of the PDD are at odds with each other. Hence, seen from a rational point of view I shouldn't introduce RL-friends here. (Note, however, that this does not mean that I wouldn't want any of the PFRs as RL-friends (which I would), since in such a situation these potential problems wouldn't manifest themselves, as the new RL-friend would be familiar with the forum, its etiquette, and specifically, how there's no such thing as backing down due to friendship here.)
Another reason might be related to the fact that in RL I'm pretty much a friendship octopus - I have gained friends in a number of fairly different contexts: Some friends I have because of love of edm, others because we have fun drinking our brains out, some because we can go and (try to) pick up girls together, some because we love to play MTG, and so forth. It's my experience that when I try to bring together friends from one group with those from another, things seldomly work out spectacularly well. I guess because these friends have nothing in common but their friendship with me. Over the years I have accepted this state of affairs, and my friends have accepted that I belong to several groups of friends, and that each group won't know much about the others. So with this experience I extrapolate that no successes would be resulting from introducing non-TA friends to TA.

Btw. Unless you're all willing to admit that you have no friends, I guess the rest of you must think a little bit like me, since I don't see you introducing your friends here either.

Old Post May-25-2005 01:41  Denmark
Click Here to See the Profile for trancaholic Click here to Send trancaholic a Private Message Add trancaholic to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC



Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

^^ Okay, makes sense, feels much better now, for a while there i thought you might be ashamed of an animal loving drunk swede with no humor!

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Nah, I'm not ashamed of anything that I do when I'm sober.


just out of curiousity, are you ashamed of what you do when you are drunk? i can do really stupid things but im never really ashamed... except the very rare case but ppl usually have indulgence of all your crazy things you do when you are drunk, so the ashame factor really rises a lot...

quote:
Btw. Unless you're all willing to admit that you have no friends, I guess the rest of you must think a little bit like me, since I don't see you introducing your friends here either.


I guess i have similar reasons as you, the main reason tho beeing that i dont really have any friends that are into politics that much, so they would not like to spend the amount of time/effort that PDD takes to enjoy. I have recomended several of my "political friends" this forum, but none of them really got into it (i guess my friends have lives? ).

Also i wouldnt invite just *anyone*, i mean if the person i invite is stupid, i would feel ashamed that i actually invited him/her, and everyone in here would know it and start to hate me and i would end up committing suecide due to all the bulling i would experience from the PDD

Old Post May-25-2005 03:03  Europe
Click Here to See the Profile for St_Andrew Click here to Send St_Andrew a Private Message Visit St_Andrew's homepage! Add St_Andrew to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
occrider
Traveladdict



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
I'm not so sure...dont forget China's missiles can reach everywhere in the United States (and the US' missile defence doesn't work)

There were dozens of events during the Cold War where America and Russia (or China) could have been sucked into conflict but MAD prevailed.

Of course, the same works both ways as you point out, that China may be reluctant to enter a war that would potentially drag America in (and Japan has more chance of involving America than Taiwan does)

On the same note, would China even want to risk a war with Japan? Japan is the second richest economy in the world - it is a war economy and would be quite the match for China (bar a nuclear deterant)


The fact that Chinese missiles are capable of reaching the US is irrelevant. The US has a mutual self defense treaty with Japan:

quote:

II. Actions in Response to an Armed Attack Against Japan
1. When an armed attack against Japan is imminent;
Japan and the United States will conduct closer liaison and will take necessary measures respectively and, as deemed necessary due to changes in the situation, will make necessary preparations in order to ensure coordinated joint action, including the establishment of a coordination center between the JSDF and U.S. Forces.
The JSDF and U.S. Forces will establish in advance a common standard as regards preparations which will be respectively conducted by the two forces so that the two nations may select coordinated common readiness stages, and ensure that effective preparations for operations can be cooperatively undertaken by the JSDF and U.S. Forces respectively.
This common standard will indicate readiness stages from an increase of unit-alert posture to a maximization of combat-readiness posture concerning intelligence activities, unit readiness, movements, logistics, and other matters relating to defense preparations.
The JSDF and U.S. Forces will respectively conduct defense preparations considered necessary according to the readiness stage selected by mutual agreement between the two governments.
2. When an armed attack against Japan takes place:
(1) In principle, Japan by itself will repel limited, small-scale aggression. When it is difficult to repel aggression alone due to the scale, type and other factors of aggression, Japan will repel it with the cooperation of the United States.
(2) When the JSDF and U.S. Forces jointly conduct operations for the defense of Japan, they will strive to achieve close mutual coordination to employ the defense capacity of each force in a timely and effective manner.
(i) Concept of Operations:
The JSDF will primarily conduct defensive operations in Japanese territory and its surrounding waters and airspace. U.S. Forces will support JSDF operations. U.S. Forces will also conduct operations to supplement functional areas which exceed the capacity of the JSDF.
The JSDF and U.S. Forces will jointly conduct ground, maritime and air operations as follows:
(a) Ground Operations:
The Ground Self-Defense Force (GSDF) and U.S. Ground Forces will jointly conduct ground operations for the defense of Japan. The GSDF will conduct checking, holding and repelling operations. U.S. Ground Forces will deploy as necessary and jointly conduct operations with the GSDF, mainly those for repelling enemy forces.
(b) Maritime Operations:
The Maritime Self-Defense Force (MSDF) and U.S. Navy will jointly conduct maritime operations for the defense of surrounding waters and the protection of sea lines of communication.
The MSDF will primarily conduct operations for the protection of major ports and straits In Japan; and anti-submarine operations, operations for the protection of ships and other operations in the surrounding waters.
U.S. Naval Forces will support MSDF operations and conduct operations, including those which may involve the use of task forces providing additional mobility and strike power, with the objective of repelling enemy forces.
(c) Air Operations:
The Air Self-Defense Force (ASDF) and U.S. Air Force will Jointly conduct air operations for the defense of Japan.
The ASDF will conduct air-defense, anti-airborne and anti-amphibious invasion, close air support, air reconnaissance, airlift operations, etc.
U.S. Air Force will support ASDF operations and conduct operations, including those which may involve the use of air units providing additional strike power, with the objective of repelling enemy forces.
(d) When carrying out ground, maritime, and air operations, the JSDF and U.S. Forces will provide necessary support for each other's forces in various activities related to operations, such as intelligence, logistics, etc.
http://www.fas.org/news/japan/sisin1e.htm


Therefore, there is no "potential" of a war with the US in the event of a Chinese attack on Japan. It is assuredly a definite as a treaty obligation.

But yea, as you say, it would be pointless for China to destabilize the region so much by attacking such a vital economic powerhouse in the region. As a matter of fact, the global economy is so interlinked, I would go so far to say that it will never be in anybody's interests to cause damage to any of the major players. European markets profit on good US economic news, US markets trade well on positive chinese economic news, and the circle goes around.


___________________
Retro ...

Old Post May-25-2005 04:01  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for occrider Click Here to Email occrider Click here to Send occrider a Private Message Add occrider to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
occrider
Traveladdict



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Nah, I'm not ashamed of anything that I do when I'm sober.


You post here ... sober???

quote:

Btw. Unless you're all willing to admit that you have no friends, I guess the rest of you must think a little bit like me, since I don't see you introducing your friends here either.


One of my good friends was kind of into trance and he started posting on TA for a month or two. It was weird. None of my friends are political in the sense that I am, so I use these forums as a means to satisfy my argumentative needs. Since none of my RL friends have such desires to talk shop I guess I'm a slightly different person online than off. Normally I keep my online life seperate from RL, but I wouldn't mind meeting polit TAs and a few COR folk cuz you all are decidedly non-toolish .

Plus I need to broaden my horizons. I mean, as it is, I don't know any Swedes in RL who are into animal sex ...


___________________
Retro ...

Old Post May-25-2005 04:30  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for occrider Click Here to Email occrider Click here to Send occrider a Private Message Add occrider to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
occrider
Traveladdict



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

"Warning! Science Contained Within!" sticker is removed from science textbooks in bumfuck Georgia. Now everyone look at MisterOpus drunk off his rocker ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7963494


___________________
Retro ...

Old Post May-25-2005 07:41  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for occrider Click Here to Email occrider Click here to Send occrider a Private Message Add occrider to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DrUg_Tit0
e^(i*pi)+1=0



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Referrals?

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
some because we love to play MTG


Hehe, MTG was great, but I haven't played it in a while now...

Anyway, yeah, most of my friends either aren't interested in trance or aren't interested in politics, and I don't think any are interested in both. But I agree it would be cool to meat some people here in real life. Even if they do have that little cattle thing going on.


___________________
1+1=10

Old Post May-25-2005 12:44  Croatia
Click Here to See the Profile for DrUg_Tit0 Click Here to Email DrUg_Tit0 Click here to Send DrUg_Tit0 a Private Message Add DrUg_Tit0 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Renegade
____________/



Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

I have three referrals, but only one posts on a semi-regular basis (only in the aussie section). I've tried to get another one of my friends to post in the PDD but he made one or two posts then got bored. Not sure who the third is to be honest?

As for meeting people in real life from here, I think it'd be interesting. I've met most of the Melbourne TAs and they're rarely what you imagine them to be. I don't mean that in a good or bad way, it's just that you kinda get a mental image of what people must be like based on what they post and it's rarely accurate. I don't think personalities carry over very well into the cyber-world, tbh.

Still if you're ever in Melbourne, let me know. We can go out, talk politics for about 15 minutes, then you can watch me drink myself into a quivering mess before passing out in a gutter somewhere. Isn't that, afterall, the very essense of all good political discussion?


___________________
http://eschatonnow.blogspot.com/

Old Post May-25-2005 16:43  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for Renegade Click Here to Email Renegade Click here to Send Renegade a Private Message Add Renegade to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

tranceaddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Political Chillout Thread
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (590): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 [64] 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread

Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:52.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2014

Privacy Statement
Geo Visitors Map