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Originally posted by George Smiley Ok, just had a complete headfuck and think I might have disproved the existence of God! Yes I’m drunk and had a few spiffs but I just sat down to take a dump on the toilet and had a complete revelation! I’ll not go into details of how I came to think of this but it involves my Lonely Planet guide book to Lebanon and imagining me in Beirut having a conversation with someone about religion. He asks whether I believe in God and I say the Bible keeps contradicting itself and science has proven all other things to be untrue…apart from one thing science cant explain…and this is where I had my revelation!! Basically, you all must have had that discussion with yourself about how the universe began. I know I’ve had it loads of times. Its quite a good argument for a religious person to make cos we simply do not know how the universe started. So the obvious religious argument is that it must have been God that did it. My theory is that we simply cannot contemplate the true nature of time. Humans are simply not that far ahead. So maybe time is in a kind of different shape, like a loop, and there simply is no beginning or end. However, the religious argument still holds, that the loop and everything in it had to be created at some point, things don’t just appear. So maybe it was God? But if we take the two religious arguments further, that nothing just ‘appears’ and that it had to be created, then that would apply to God too. God could not just have ‘appeared’ and had to be created, and what ever created that had to be created and so on. So we have an infinite chain of creation that simply cannot end. So my revelation is that taking the religious argument that the universe had to be created by something disproves itself, cos that implies an infinite chain of creation, which could equally apply to an infinite loop in time for the universe. Either way, which ever way you look at it, there simply is no beginning cos both theories lead to the infinite, but at least with a loop its circular, so the end and beginning can be at any point in the loop, whereas with the God theory, there is no point at which a beginning can be placed, therefore, that theory must be incorrect! Thankyou, and goodnight! (ok might stay up for a bit to see if that screwed with anyone!)

Wauuw - you must have the weirdest toilet experiences. Have you ever yelled "Eureka!" in a public toilet stall?
Anyway, it doesn't make sense to ask what created the universe, as "create" presupposes a point in time where the thing is not there and a point where it is. But time is a property of the universe, so the universe cannot possibly have been created.
I agree with you that the "God did it" is never a good explanation, as it begs not only another question, but *two* new questions: "Why is there a God?" and "why did God do it?"

Btw. I'm taking over from you guys: Just opened the first beer, and will be going to a club pretty soon. It's 31 degrees and nearly 70% humidity here (at 10 in the evening), so I'll melt when I get to the subway and probably die if the club has no A/C. However, I read somewhere that alcohol lowers your body temperature, so I'm working on a plan...

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Originally posted by trancaholic Btw. I'm taking over from you guys: Just opened the first beer, and will be going to a club pretty soon. It's 31 degrees and nearly 70% humidity here (at 10 in the evening), so I'll melt when I get to the subway and probably die if the club has no A/C. However, I read somewhere that alcohol lowers your body temperature, so I'm working on a plan...

I miss the north american climate! here its supposed to be 13 tomorrow... and i wanted to go to the beach.... bah...

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Originally posted by George Smiley Ok, just had a complete headfuck and think I might have disproved the existence of God! Yes I’m drunk and had a few spiffs but I just sat down to take a dump on the toilet and had a complete revelation! I’ll not go into details of how I came to think of this but it involves my Lonely Planet guide book to Lebanon and imagining me in Beirut having a conversation with someone about religion. He asks whether I believe in God and I say the Bible keeps contradicting itself and science has proven all other things to be untrue…apart from one thing science cant explain…and this is where I had my revelation!! Basically, you all must have had that discussion with yourself about how the universe began. I know I’ve had it loads of times. Its quite a good argument for a religious person to make cos we simply do not know how the universe started. So the obvious religious argument is that it must have been God that did it. My theory is that we simply cannot contemplate the true nature of time. Humans are simply not that far ahead. So maybe time is in a kind of different shape, like a loop, and there simply is no beginning or end. However, the religious argument still holds, that the loop and everything in it had to be created at some point, things don’t just appear. So maybe it was God? But if we take the two religious arguments further, that nothing just ‘appears’ and that it had to be created, then that would apply to God too. God could not just have ‘appeared’ and had to be created, and what ever created that had to be created and so on. So we have an infinite chain of creation that simply cannot end. So my revelation is that taking the religious argument that the universe had to be created by something disproves itself, cos that implies an infinite chain of creation, which could equally apply to an infinite loop in time for the universe. Either way, which ever way you look at it, there simply is no beginning cos both theories lead to the infinite, but at least with a loop its circular, so the end and beginning can be at any point in the loop, whereas with the God theory, there is no point at which a beginning can be placed, therefore, that theory must be incorrect! Thankyou, and goodnight! (ok might stay up for a bit to see if that screwed with anyone!)

ehm, isnt this like really old?

And now to the important stuff:

I kinda got dumped by a girl tonight, I totally didnt expect that. But I guess this give me a reason to get even drunker tomorrow

The things we think about while on the shitter, eh?

St Andrew what happened?

If it makes you feel better... the stupid boy that I had been seeing the past few months (I'm sure you all remember my ridiculous whining) has indeed gotten back together with slut from LA. I pat myself on the back everyday that I moved out of that city and out of that state, because I think there is something seriously wrong with most that live in that state!

I made the horrid long drive to Reno today to pick up a few more items that I needed for my big move on Friday. You can all expect an absense of my presence this upcoming weekend for I will be moving all of my stuff into my tiny little studio apartment (which I am unfortunate enough to have to have a roommate in this studio... but hopefully only for the next four months, then I will be able to get my own studio).

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Originally posted by squirrelly The things we think about while on the shitter, eh? St Andrew what happened?

Well it wasnt anything serious really. Just so unexpected. Anyway, it was this girl i met in Canada, and we were really good friends and i really love her in that way. So last weekend I was down visiting her and another guy I met there. And I got drunk (she wasnt really drunk, only a few drinks), and things happend, nothing really serious, but serious enough I guess. Anyhow, we didn't really talk about it for the whole week but I could tell it was bothering her so I asked her yestruday, and yeah she asked what I meant by it. I said that I meant something with it, but nothing serious like I didnt want any relationship or anything. Then she told me she didnt mean shit with it. Which was a total shock for me, cause usually I'm pretty good at knowing what ppl feel, and I was dead sure she thought exactly the same as me. So it was a total shock for me, even though I wont have a period of depression or anything it still lowered my self confidence a bit... But I will get over it fast But worst part of all must have been she was danish too!!! haha

Gotta love to share those storeis on a public internet board btw

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If it makes you feel better... the stupid boy that I had been seeing the past few months (I'm sure you all remember my ridiculous whining) has indeed gotten back together with slut from LA. I pat myself on the back everyday that I moved out of that city and out of that state, because I think there is something seriously wrong with most that live in that state!

I totally feel your pain, I had a terrible break up last year, with a girl who got together with another guy a week after she broke up with me... hmmm

anyway gotta for lunch and then to the beach!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew LOL, 1, what is hurling, 2. what is GAA football?

http://www.gaa.ie/page/all_about_hurling.html

info about it there, and you will find info about the football aswell. Great sports.






anyway, hung over again. Ugh. Must of puked about 8 or 9 times last night. Got sick on the bus aswell, a rather classy touch i think you will all agree. Missed my stop cos of it aswell.


Spirits are not my friends.

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Originally posted by Michael19 http://www.gaa.ie/page/all_about_hurling.html info about it there, and you will find info about the football aswell. Great sports. anyway, hung over again. Ugh. Must of puked about 8 or 9 times last night. Got sick on the bus aswell, a rather classy touch i think you will all agree. Missed my stop cos of it aswell. Spirits are not my friends.

Come on Ard Mhacha!!!!!!!!!!

what a game today against clare! third final in a row, most likely be the third cork vs kilkenny match aswell!

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Originally posted by Michael19 what a game today against clare! third final in a row, most likely be the third cork vs kilkenny match aswell!

Fuck knows!!!

I've seen one match in my life (on telly) and that was when my team, Armagh, won the something or other in 2003!!

I try to look on websites to follow whats goin on but its too hard cos every team has a team in loads of different leagues and I have no idea what the top (or major) league is or what the cup competition is called!!

Any help would be appreciated!

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Originally posted by George Smiley Fuck knows!!! I've seen one match in my life (on telly) and that was when my team, Armagh, won the something or other in 2003!! I try to look on websites to follow whats goin on but its too hard cos every team has a team in loads of different leagues and I have no idea what the top (or major) league is or what the cup competition is called!! Any help would be appreciated!

haha. THe league is the alliance league. Its nothing major, its kinda pre-season warm up to the action in the summer.


The major trophy everyone wants to win iss the sam maguire. That what armagh won in 2003 i think.All counties start off in playing teams in there own province. If you win your provincial trophy you are moved straight into the quarter final.

If you loss a match in your province you are put into a qualifer. In this you can face anyteam in any province. So its alot tougher.

Aramagh are playing laois in the quarter final next week. the winner will play either tyrone or dublin in the semi final then. Other semi final is between Kerry and cork.

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