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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
and then after spending a weekend in a hotel room with her she flew back and pulled a quick 180 on me.


can't really blame the girl. i can't even begin to imagine how obtuse and arrogant you are in person.


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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

flame bait: n.

[common] A posting intended to trigger a flame war, or one that invites flames in reply. See also troll.

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/flame-bait.html


troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT.

2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.” Compare kook.

3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.

The use of ‘troll’ in any of these senses is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning “Do not feed the troll” as part of a followup to troll postings.

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html

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pkcRAISTLIN
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10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

I think I'll pass

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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

lolwut?


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jerZ07002
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
can't really blame the girl. i can't even begin to imagine how obtuse and arrogant you are in person.

not exactly a shocker that he has to meet girls on the internet to get any action.

Last edited by jerZ07002 on Apr-07-2008 at 04:35

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Lira
Put on robe & wizard hat!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil Formerly known as: Maaz

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
lolwut?

Where did you post the definition of cook? Browsing this site, I found out I'm just a few muscles away of being a perfect guy, w00t!
quote:
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Calls me to just say hi
Tries not to argue
Apologizes for when he does wrong
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Has a car
Has a dog
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Compliments me
Is tan
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Wait... I don't like to clean either... and I like oral sex


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

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Moongoose
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
... The Second Amendment ... or are you forgetting something? Not that I own any, but what's wrong with firearms? Would you prefer banning them so only criminals have them (as they don't legally purchase their guns in the first place)?


I see my poor attempt at humor went over everyone's head. Ill do better next time i promise.

As for the Firearmsissue, ill take the covards way out of that one and say that im undecided on it. If you would have asked me about it even a year ago, i would be flat against them but now im divided. On the one hand i can understand that a person has one for protection, however the fact that anyone in a crowd might carry one makes me feel uneasy not safe. If people keep their guny and home (amd make a collection out of them) im perfectly fine with that. Hell people collect all kinds of weird stuff anyway so why not guns.

To go completely off topic for just a second, its not like im a collector or anything (im not that much of a geek!) but i wouild love to havethis its just that i dont have anywhere to put it and nowhere near enough time to sit down and put it together.


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shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Hey Shaolin, I didn't want to post another off-topic comment in that 'Turn OFF your TV' thread (the trolls have already had their way with it) so I'm copying my response to you here.





I actually had some evil b*tch who I met on MySpace fly in from Chicago to see me a couple of years ago and I think she was trying to get me to kill myself (COINTELPRO style?) after she had pretty much convinced me that we were soulmates (or somerthing to that effect) and then after spending a weekend in a hotel room with her she flew back and pulled a quick 180 on me. She got really nasty so I found her boyfriend on MySpace, told him that she was cheating on him and then things got even more ugly. lol, oops. The poor guy didn't even believe me at first when I told him, or at least that's the way that he made it appear.

Here's pretty much how it began:
(just one of a few hundred messages from her)


and here's how it ended:



and the entire time I had no idea that she even had a gun.

I'm not shocked to be honest, it is myspace after all... the place seems to have no lack of nuts .


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LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'm not shocked to be honest, it is myspace after all... the place seems to have no lack of nuts .


Especially those nuts that have 15k friends lists and then come on TA and brag about it.......

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Zild
Ten City



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
I see my poor attempt at humor went over everyone's head. Ill do better next time i promise.

As for the Firearmsissue, ill take the covards way out of that one and say that im undecided on it. If you would have asked me about it even a year ago, i would be flat against them but now im divided. On the one hand i can understand that a person has one for protection, however the fact that anyone in a crowd might carry one makes me feel uneasy not safe. If people keep their guny and home (amd make a collection out of them) im perfectly fine with that. Hell people collect all kinds of weird stuff anyway so why not guns.

To go completely off topic for just a second, its not like im a collector or anything (im not that much of a geek!) but i wouild love to havethis its just that i dont have anywhere to put it and nowhere near enough time to sit down and put it together.


I carry as much as possible. You never know when Lilith is going to jump out of a tree with a garrote wire.


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