Originally posted by dnt
Otherwise its a solid solid piece of hardware. I have never liked the CDJs by Pioneer, the buttons and jog wheel feel like a fisher price toy. Plus I love the direct drive feature on the technics its more natural to me. Im sure there are people who learned on teh Pioneers so this deck would be awkward to them without more steady vinyl practice. It is more sensitive than an Analog deck though that is for sure.
I like the DZs, but oddly enough, I chose the Pioneers because they felt and acted more like real vinyl to me. Until two weeks ago, I had been vinyl-only for the past twelve years. It seems to me that the people who buy DZs or Denons do so because they've never touched a record, and assume that that's what it must feel like.
Jul-22-2006 11:25
ieko
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: LATA#370 Los Angeles, California
Yeah to me the DZ's felt very cheap, especially when compared to the SL-1200's. I definitly think the pioneers are of a higher quality.. though I don't think they're the tanks that the SL-1200's are.
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Jul-22-2006 14:57
dnt
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Seattle, Washington
Pioneers feel more like Vinyl...... Thats the first time I think ive ever heard that...
A plastic somewhat lose jog wheel that doesnt move.. What kind of turntable were YOU using before that LOL. Loose clicky buttons. Shrug, to each his own.
I mean I can respect peoples opinions, but Trog, yours made absolutely no sense to me :P The people I know bought the DZ because it does feel more like a record compared to a stationary jog wheel you push backwards and fowards.
Ive owned both, shrug. So thats where I get teh feel of the cheapness from the Pioneers. Their mixers feel the very same way to me as well. Like Im going to snap off one of their EQ knobs.
I suppose I love metal more than I love plastic too
Oh I gotta throw this in, Denons use a Belt Drive. That feels even worse than the Pioneer. My ranking, DZ, Pioneer, and then somewhere under the rest of the old school CDJs t he Denon.
Last edited by dnt on Jul-22-2006 at 18:03
Jul-22-2006 17:58
xenoaxe
tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2005
Location:
I personally think both the DZ and CDJ-1000 feel like cheap POS's...I just happen to choose the cdj-1000 (two of them actually)
Registered: Sep 2002
Location: home or somewhere else
quote:
Originally posted by dnt
Oh I gotta throw this in, Denons use a Belt Drive. That feels even worse than the Pioneer.
dn-s3500 has direct drive afaik
quote:
Originally posted by xenoaxe
I personally think both the DZ and CDJ-1000 feel like cheap POS's...I just happen to choose the cdj-1000 (two of them actually)
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Seattle, Washington
Is that a new Denon out Skip? Cuz the 3000 and 5000 previous had Belt Drive.
In anycase that little 45 RPM disk on top throws me off heh.
Jul-22-2006 19:15
Rebel Brown
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
quote:
Originally posted by dnt
Is that a new Denon out Skip? Cuz the 3000 and 5000 previous had Belt Drive.
In anycase that little 45 RPM disk on top throws me off heh.
Not exactly new, but it's the most recent one.
Jul-22-2006 20:00
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
I was caught once trying to set a pair of DZs on fire in a DJ booth I was working in. They took away my bottle of lighter fluid. I like CDJ 100s better. Yes 100s not 1000s.
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congratulations to myself!!! just got myself an SSL!!
man that thing ROXXX!!! better than cdj and vinyl together
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Jul-23-2006 19:37
blacknoizybox
cracks and pops
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
how do you like those trackmaster IIs...i have them and personally find them to be not so great. Albeit they do sound good however the nice shiny stanton logo on the handle bar is fading on one of them and the skip resistance is abosolutely horrific.
edit: your set-up is pretty nice btw...i see that you are a fan of stanton...
2 edit: there seems to be a gap between the cartridge and the stylus...does your have this...
i dont fing any major problems with these carts. i put 3 gramms of weight instead of the recommended 4-5 gramms and i rarely have skipping issues. great sound, great looks.
im not a fan of stanton i think....i just find Stanton's top of the line (T.120/ST.150 + M.304/505/505FX) the best for the money i.e. M.304 = 350, T.120 = 460.....
and now i've added SSL and im shocked how flawless it works
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