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Originally posted by a.chan how much for your 500? i want the 800 cause i learned on a djm 600, and i just got used to the feeling of a pio mixer...

right now...

$345 with in-the-usa shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...s=tab%3DSelling

three days left. But I thought you already had a Xone 92 which would make this purchase rather pointless, haha.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo right now... $345 with in-the-usa shipping http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...s=tab%3DSelling three days left. But I thought you already had a Xone 92 which would make this purchase rather pointless, haha.

meh, i'll think about it... yeah i have the 92, but i really want a pio mixer!

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Originally posted by a.chan meh, i'll think about it... yeah i have the 92, but i really want a pio mixer!

I'm sorry but Xone92 >>>> DJM500.

hum thinking about it... A&H >>>>>>>>>>>> Pio

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Originally posted by Neo Hacker I'm sorry but Xone92 >>>> DJM500.

F'real. That's plainly obvious though.

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hum thinking about it... A&H >>>>>>>>>>>> Pio

That is personal preference though

I've never even touched anything by A&H, but Pioneer seems to have everything so easily laid out. Very quick to pick up and mixing can become an almost natural type of thing on them (in my opinion).

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I've never even touched anything by A&H, but Pioneer seems to have everything so easily laid out. Very quick to pick up and mixing can become an almost natural type of thing on them (in my opinion).

Indeed. A&H DJ Mixers are more like "studio mixer" I would say. Before DJing, I was a sound tech so I learned on studio and big mixers (like Mackie, Soundcraft, etc). This is why I much prefer the Xone. The Pio is much more easier, but I'd say not as versatile as the Xone.

But that's just my 2c

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Originally posted by Neo Hacker Indeed. A&H DJ Mixers are more like "studio mixer" I would say. Before DJing, I was a sound tech so I learned on studio and big mixers (like Mackie, Soundcraft, etc). This is why I much prefer the Xone. The Pio is much more easier, but I'd say not as versatile as the Xone. But that's just my 2c

and they sound pretty shit


i think its hilarious when djs use vinyl with the pioneer...

DIGITAL!



the sound on the a&hs just destorys that plasticy digital nasty sound of the djm800

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Had to restore this thread but lost the info from the forum it was in

was it in this forum or another one?

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Originally posted by Swamper Had to restore this thread but lost the info from the forum it was in was it in this forum or another one?

This one, thanks for the restore Swamper!!

i gotta say something about the a&h vs. pio thing altho i'm no expert on the subject.
when i started djing i bought a djm-300s. i pretty much hated it from the start, didn't really know why back then. sure, it was simple to use and all, but i just didn't like it.
then i bought a vestax pcv-175 and immediately noticed that i liked its sound much more. it wasn't as simple as the pioneer but that didn't bother me one bit.
then i grew out of it and got a xone:92 and immediately fell i love with it. i love the sound and everything else. sure it has some controls that take some getting used to, but so what? you'll get used to them and you'll fucking love it as it's a fucking brilliant mixer, pretty much the best on the market atm.

so if i'd sort the mixers i've had based on the ease of use, the order would be this:
pioneer > vestax > allen & heath
if i'd sort them by sound quality the order would be much different:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
and if i would sort them by the general feel of playing with them it would be:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
even though the pioneer is the easiest of them to use.


sure, this comparison is kinda stupid as each of these mixers are in a totally different price range. and i really have no idea how much the djm-600 and the 300 differ on feel and sound quality but i do think they're very similar, the 600 just has more features. and i have no idea how much better the djm-400 and 800 are.
the vestax is a rather old model and i have no idea how it compares to newer ones, but i liked it (altho it looked horrible and had some things i didn't like about it).
i also have never played on any other a&h than my precious xone:92 rotary, so i don't know how they would compare.

but from all this i'd say that i would never get a pioneer mixer again, even if my xone broke and i couldn't afford a new one. i just don't like them at all, they don't really seem professional enough to me.
if i couldn't afford an a&h i'd get a vestax (or a rane, but i have never tested one so i have no idea if i'd like a rane).

i dunno if my rambling made any sense. i just woke up. but i felt like i needed to say something on the subject. and the general point is something like: pioneer mixers aren't as good as they seem IMO.

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when using a dvs...which mixer would be better? i remember somebody saying since you have a digital source, the pio would be better for a dvs. contemplating picking up a new mixer...dont know yet as to which one though