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EgosXII
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hoooollllyyyy shiiiiitttt LOL.

Lars Von Trier totally didn't get melancholia either. He missed the whole fucking point of the movie!

Like, seriously man; I know there's 100% no point talking to you, but Lars himself said he fucking DID consult a heap of scientists, and was extremely interested in that side of it. Fuck.


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GoSpeedGo!
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Registered: May 2006
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He may have consulted Stephen Hawking for all I know; the point is, it's still not important. Instead of arguing ad hominems and making unsubstantiated claims, maybe you could tell me how exactly is this aspect of scientific plausibility relevant to any kind of interpretation of Melancholia or even to its passive viewing.

What a director (especially Trier) says in an interview does not matter.

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LAdazeNYnights
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Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA

New Wes Anderson flick:



What an amazing cast!!
Bill Murray & Jason Schwartzman, of course, but Edward Norton + Bruce Willis + Frances Mcdermot + Tilda Swinton

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mathieu
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The Devil Inside.

Don't watch it. Mother****** it was bad.

Its another one of those handheld camera films, I could basically tell what the characters were going to say, I got a couple jumps but theres a difference between jumping and being surprised from loud well timed fucking noise and being scared. if you really want to see it, torrent it lol

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LAdazeNYnights
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^rofll i read something about how it was the #1 movie of the weekend - attributing it's success to the massive online marketing it did. apparently theater exit polls have audiences grading it an 'F'

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EgosXII
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quote:
Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
New Wes Anderson flick:



What an amazing cast!!
Bill Murray & Jason Schwartzman, of course, but Edward Norton + Bruce Willis + Frances Mcdermot + Tilda Swinton


Its finally nearing completion?!?! Thank the gods!


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LeopoldStotch
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Saw a good number of movies during my trip ..

Jane Eyre - like i said .. great period movie piece. wasikowska and fassbender did an excellent job filling their individual roles, and the movie stayed true to the book.


Tinker Tailor Solider Spy - as a highly regarded movie with a lot of buzz, i felt underwhelmed watching the movie. I guess this is what happens when you place the movie so high before watching it. oldman, firth, and tom hardy were pretty good, but as a suspense thriller film, i thought it underperformed. that's just my opinion. I'm sure the book is better, but I am sure Fincher's "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" is better than TTSS as a suspense thriller film.


Moneyball - for a sports/baseball fan, it's a good movie. brad pitt basically carried this movie. you take him out of the movie, and this movie sucks. PSH's limited role in the movie wouldn't help. i don't see a movie goer who doesn't like baseball enjoying this movie.


Another Earth - this movie is a 2011 sleeper. i don't think many people have talked about this movie last year. great science fiction movie about astrophysics, and life in general. i definitely recommend this film.


Cowboys and Aliens - why did i watch this? i figured to watch one action film while on the trip. the first 20 minutes and last 30 minutes were good. everything else inbetween was shitty. what was jon favreau thinking?


so my rankings on the 5 movies:
- jane eyre
- another earth
- moneyball
- tinker tailor sailor spy
- cowboys and aliens


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^rofll i read something about how it was the #1 movie of the weekend - attributing it's success to the massive online marketing it did. apparently theater exit polls have audiences grading it an 'F'

6% on Rotten Tomatoes so far.

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I liked Moneyball a lot and I couldn't care less about baseball.

GoSpeed I respect the fact that you can articulate your views, I just get the feeling that you're out to defend a lot of movies that don't deserve it. That Bruce Willis plot comparison was just stupid and really weakens my impression of your perspective.

I have yet to see Melancholia, but I'll give it a fair shot.

Anyone who thought Devil Inside was going to be anything more than surface level garbage is way too easily led by flashy marketing.

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I liked Moneyball a lot and I couldn't care less about baseball.



i think it's also for those who like good storytelling, which is exactly what the movie is also. Other than that, I can't see anyone else enjoying the film if there is no interest in a good storyline or baseball.


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GoSpeedGo!
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GoSpeed I respect the fact that you can articulate your views, I just get the feeling that you're out to defend a lot of movies that don't deserve it.


I'm not sure why you think so - Melancholia would've probably won Palm D'or if it weren't for Trier's politically incorrect joke about Nazis, and many film critics name the film as one of the best of the year. It's the complete opposite of, say, Sucker Punch.


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That Bruce Willis plot comparison was just stupid and really weakens my impression of your perspective.


Well, let me elaborate.

I was trying to say that if you see Melancholia as a catastrophic film then it is really the perfect antithesis of something like Armageddon. The difference is, as I said, the whole point of the movie. An apocalypse in a conventional Hollywood movie is something that needs to be averted so the whole narrative is centered around that. There is usually a deadline - a very common element of classical narration - that needs to be met or everyone is going to die etc. We all watch the hero overcome the impossible obstacles and this creates tension.

Now this obviously sets a whole lot of expectations for the viewers when it comes to movies like this so imagine someone who has never heard of Lars von Trier and only read the synopsis of Melancholia (cool! another disaster movie!) going to watch the film. Of course they may be easily baffled by the fact that it's mostly about people arguing and some depressed girl who can apparently predict future and noone knows why. Also, they literally show how the planets collide within the first few minutes of the movie! WTF?! Where's the tension that I'm used to?

This is, again, just a surface comparison but hopefully it is more clear now.

So to sum it up briefly, Armageddon asks "How can we avert this situation?" while Melancholia asks "How can we personally deal with the inevitable catastrophe and why do we deserve it?", which is a completely different question.

I'm not saying that arthouse films that subvert genre conventions are necesarilly better than Hollywood movies, they just require a different approach from the viewer, which - when not applied - may easily lead to boredom.

e: For what it's worth, I don't even think Melancholia is all that brilliant - it has its flaws and it's probably the worst Trier film I've watched (still, that's a lot better than a majority of what gets released). This is not some kind of a fanboyish defense by me, I'm just offering another perspective when it's clear that people are dismissing a film mostly out of ignorance.

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Halcyon+On+On
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Aw. So it's like Deep Impact then, eh? *obnoxiously chews gum with a vapid stare*


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