It has never been philosophy's charge to move mountains, though, like religion - and inseparable with religion, mind you - it has been the fuel that unifies men to do so. Perhaps it is an incomparable thing when it comes to the provision of food, water, and family, but it is the imperative that brings these things together beyond the ken of any individual stomach, any individual tongue.
And then came existentialism.
Nov-18-2010 02:40
EgosXII
Aphorism
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Melbourne
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
philosophy didn’t create the wheel or discover fire either. philosophy didn’t build the pyramids. Philosophy created a generation of pot smoking hippies.
lol so science is useless too, since it only explains what already exists??
science is philosophy which relates to the physical world, also a type of philosophy is used to rationalise and implement any construction, and so it most likely did play a part in the pyramids
Nov-18-2010 03:11
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Philosophy created a generation of pot smoking hippies.
It has never been philosophy's charge to move mountains, though, like religion - and inseparable with religion, mind you - it has been the fuel that unifies men to do so. Perhaps it is an incomparable thing when it comes to the provision of food, water, and family, but it is the imperative that brings these things together beyond the ken of any individual stomach, any individual tongue.
And then came existentialism.
Exhibit A your honour.
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Originally posted by EgosXII
lol so science is useless too, since it only explains what already exists??
science does more than that, it enables us to mould the world in our image.
quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
science is philosophy which relates to the physical world, also a type of philosophy is used to rationalise and implement any construction, and so it most likely did play a part in the pyramids
all the philosophies that actually have a point and are useful go by another name, ie political science.
I have no idea why you’re bothering to discuss this with me given my earlier statement…Perhaps you’re too busy contemplating the true meaning and metaphysical existence of my words, rather than just understanding their existence as defined by the dictionary of reality?
Nov-18-2010 03:26
Lira
Moderator Marcus Secundus
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil Formerly known as: Maaz
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I have no idea what lira just said, but I suspect it’s bollocks, because that’s what 99% of philosophy is. the 1% that isn’t bollocks is called political science.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
philosophy didn’t spawn mathematics.
I know you're joking, as you probably remember Plato, Hobbes and Marx and how they contributed to your field before your field existed. However, because there seems to be some problems with the argumentation here, and philosophy and science have loads to one and teach to one another, here's a small graph because I can't be arsed to make an argument tonight... I'm short of time and html is simpler:
Trippy philosophical inception ---------------------------> Hot scientific destination
Clarification of ideas <--------------------------- Loads of discoveries
Philosophy makes better scientists, science makes better philosophers; hot girls make me hot and religion makes me reel... hence the name, I guess
Nov-18-2010 03:52
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
the only thing plato contributed to the world were boring relationships with no sex.
Nov-18-2010 03:56
Lira
Moderator Marcus Secundus
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil Formerly known as: Maaz
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the only thing plato contributed to the world were boring relationships with no sex.
Actually, he pretty much designed the worst possible case scenario in the history of political ideas! You've got to give him some credit!
Nov-18-2010 04:03
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
Sorry, you’ve lost me there. I havent read plato in almost 15 years. all I really remember is forms, and Socrates felatio.
...Oh, and fucking boring lectures on the history of bollocks.
Nov-18-2010 04:10
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: between her
Pip, you smoke enough pot to be a Reiki master. DON'T EVEN GO THERE.
Nov-18-2010 04:12
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Pip, you smoke enough pot to be a Reiki master. DON'T EVEN GO THERE.
Exactly! So I know what im talking about!
And unfortunately I don’t anymore
Nov-18-2010 04:15
Lira
Moderator Marcus Secundus
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil Formerly known as: Maaz
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Sorry, you’ve lost me there. I havent read plato in almost 15 years. all I really remember is forms, and Socrates felatio.
...Oh, and fucking boring lectures on the history of bollocks.
I don't blame you. I personally hate philosophy penned by anyone who didn't know the continent called America
Nov-18-2010 04:16
Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Actually, he pretty much designed the worst possible case scenario in the history of political ideas! You've got to give him some credit!
Only if you believe him to be serious. Personally I see the Republic as more of a criticism of idealism and the like than a serious idea he wished to have implemented.
