|Originally posted by nefardec |
Oh please. Do you see aboriginal societies using weight gain supplements or creatine or excercise equipment?
And what about steroids?
And what about the fact that not all transgender people take hormones? Or have surgeries.
Some people don't take hormones but get breast implants. Some transmen wear 'packers' and get mascectomies. Some cis-men have masectomies too, to treat their "natural" gynecomastia.
The point is you're equivocating, and there are culturally common forms of physical transition, and there are culturally uncommon and tabboo forms of physical transition. One is considered more natural than the other simply because one upholds the order of the world, and the other is critical.
Right I'm not doubting cultural differences with it. I'm just saying in your case, you're using hormone therapy and/or surgeries for your transition. For me, that would be akin to using anabolic steroids (which is an unnatural transformation of ones body), or having surgery to get calf implants or something like that. Imo, none of that is wrong. We can do whatever we want to our bodies, because they are our bodies. All I'm saying is that taking Creatine to help build muscle is not the same as going through hormone therapy to help transition from man to woman or woman to man.
Those same more primitive groups also probably wouldn't have access to hormone therapy or modern surgery either. That doesn't mean it's the same thing.
Again, I'd just like to point out that I have absolutely no problem with transgender people, and everybody has a right to do whatever they please with their bodies. I just thought your example wasn't very affective to support your argument (even though you shouldn't need to make any arguments in the first place).
Just because I would never do that to myself, and because I've never felt the way you do, doesn't make it wrong. It's kind of like Tom Cruise saying that depression is a myth just because he doesn't believe in it.
|Originally posted by OrangestO |
This isn't about physics, this is about waves.