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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay Its not a slag either, but if you want to look more feminine a little bit more length in the hair to mask the jawline is going to help you. Those cheekbones are all diva, but the jaw gives you away. This isn't meant to be offensive, i was yapping about it with my gf before...she is a secret fan of your transformation lol.

Haha

Yeah I understand, and appreciate that, and even agree - I just really hate wigs. I was offered some nice permanent extensions recently, but to be honest I'm not sure I'll even do that. I don't pad my body or stuff or anything like that either... I really just prefer to let the medicine do its thing.

As for the jawline... I'm saving for surgery

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don't worry, the big floppy italian penis between your legs is a bit more of a giveaway

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, preese, so sorree for intorrerance fwum esss russer. He maka fun of you because you tarking in racial stereotype. I aporogize for heem. He not know how behave. Preeze accept aporogee. Ching chang chow yun fat, Mr. Roboto.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay don't worry, the big floppy italian penis between your legs is a bit more of a giveaway

LOL

without wanting to give TMI, that's an area where I am pretty satisfied with the effects of hormone treatments

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Originally posted by nefardec also i'm going to have like twice as much hair in general on my head due to the hormones

That's interesting, I had no idea this happened!

By the way, have you felt any differences in the way you see the world since you started taking hormones? I once heard an account of a transgender neuroscientist (yes, they exist!) and she claimed the way she makes physical operations in her head changed drastically from the time before she started taking the hormones. It was a bit more difficult, she claimed, to rotate objects and maps in her head. Unfortunately, I heard just this supposed disadvantage and couldn't find anything about the pros of having a oestrogen-fuelled brain.

So... have you felt any difference in this sense? Should I take this discussion to that other thread? And I hope I didn't phrase anything in a rude manner, this is all new to me, you know

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Originally said by Maurice Moss I came here to kick ass and drink milk... and I've just finished my milk

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, preese, so sorree for intorrerance fwum esss russer. He maka fun of you because you tarking in racial stereotype. I aporogize for heem. He not know how behave. Preeze accept aporogee. Ching chang chow yun fat, Mr. Roboto.

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Originally posted by Lira It was a bit more difficult, she claimed, to rotate objects and maps in her head.

That doesn't come as a surprise, considering male brains are significantly better than females when it comes to spacial awareness.

No, I'm not being sexist. It's science.

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Originally posted by Lira That's interesting, I had no idea this happened! By the way, have you felt any differences in the way you see the world since you started taking hormones? I once heard an account of a transgender neuroscientist (yes, they exist!) and she claimed the way she makes physical operations in her head changed drastically from the time before she started taking the hormones. It was a bit more difficult, she claimed, to rotate objects and maps in her head. Unfortunately, I heard just this supposed disadvantage and couldn't find anything about the pros of having a oestrogen-fuelled brain. So... have you felt any difference in this sense? Should I take this discussion to that other thread? And I hope I didn't phrase anything in a rude manner, this is all new to me, you know

I'm actually pretty familiar with transgender neuroscience... constantly researching this stuff for personal reasons..

From my personal experience, the spatial thing has not been an issue, but you also have to remember I've been trained as an architect... I went to school for and spent several years of my life moving around maps in my head.

I will say that the emotional changes have been immense as you might able to gather from my postings here even. The major difference I can describe is that I experience emotions in a very direct and raw way now, no longer filtered through or controlled by my thoughts. As a result, when I become emotional, I have difficulty controlling the emotions even as I am conscious and aware of them, and even possibly how ridiculous they may seem to the thinking part of my mind... but I can only just ride them out and let them do their thing. The emotions also have more of a direct effect on my body and health as well.

I didn't think this would happen, but my music taste has changed significantly, mostly in that it has broadened a lot. A major part of this, though, is probably related to the fact that in general I have pulled up my roots so much in some aspects of my life that the destabilization has resulted in the uprooting of other aspects of my life. It's just a lot easier for me to experiment with things, take risks, change.

Otherwise as far as visual things go, I had a performance review at work yesterday, and everyone agreed my design work is the best it's ever been. I don't really attribute this so much to neurological changes as much as just finally really being happy and excited about life and all its adventures.

Actually there are studies* that show that a transgender brain is more similar to that of its 'subconscious' sex than its 'given' sex. ie, a transgender woman's brain (eg moi) has more in common structurally with a cisgender woman's brain than a cisgender man's brain - from birth. This creates a cognitive dissonance (called gender dysphoria) that almost all transgender people are aware of from a young age (myself included). The hormones really have the effect of dissolving this cognitive dissonance and also improving self image and confidence through physical changes. As far as neurological changes go, I imagine they probably have some effect on the growth of the brain, but obviously like all the changes ascribed to hormone replacement therapy, there is more effect the younger the patient is.

*I can link you if you wish

I like to wear pantyhose, what does that make me?

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, preese, so sorree for intorrerance fwum esss russer. He maka fun of you because you tarking in racial stereotype. I aporogize for heem. He not know how behave. Preeze accept aporogee. Ching chang chow yun fat, Mr. Roboto.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay I like to wear pantyhose, what does that make me?

depends... so did henry the 8th...you could be a lot of things. why don't you tell us more, Jay?

so avana while we're on topic i was curious about your hair too... with the horomone treatments, will that reverse any male pattern baldness (i think that's what it's called) in the future? and has your hairdresser given you any product to help thicken your hair or prevent hairloss like 'nioxin'? you can have thinner hair and pull it off, it's just about how you style it.. but i'm sure you already know that, because you're already more stylish than me, lol! you look great, and you make a beautiful woman. i'm not just saying that to blow smoke up your ass, i think your transition is really moving along!

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Originally posted by nefardec *I can link you if you wish

Please do

And that's fascinating! Obviously, I can only know how emotions work for a testosteroneful cisbloke (i.e. me ) and the way you described your previous self does remind me of my very own way of dealing with emotions, so I'm wondering - can your girlfriend relate to this way of experiencing emotions?

And couldn't that be cultural as well? Maybe you feel more at ease to be emotional now that you're assigned a different gender?

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Originally said by Adolf Fleisch Hitler How naive can people be? Curing the COR with messy hair and philosophy?

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Originally said by Maurice Moss I came here to kick ass and drink milk... and I've just finished my milk