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srussell0018
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It sounds like you are having a bit of a crisis of faith.


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WittyHandle
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It just annoys me when I see someone stick their neck out and try to do something interesting and make it popular, but people knock them for not being leet enough. Films like Inception can be the jump off point for someone to want to seek out more challenging works.

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srussell0018
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Right but Hollywood is a business. Unfortunately you can't make a boat load of money by making "intelligent" movies unless they are dumbed down and full of action.


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WittyHandle
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Derp, really? That's what I see him doing, just less dumbed down than any other major Hollywood projects.

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7 pages about nolan and no ones mentioned memento


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ReclusNdangrmnt
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I know it was a few pages back but the thing about re-recording dialogue (It's called ADR) is true and not true. With some movies, it has to be done for one reason or another (unavoidably loud locations, special effects machinery, etc), but it is preferable to capture the dialogue on set because the performance is almost always better. Shotgun microphones (The ones they put on the ends of booms) are excellent at isolation from off-axis noise, and with big-budget projects, they are probably working on a sound stage anyways.

In this case, I'm not sure Christian Bale, who is a Method actor, would want to go back and ADR everything, but who knows

Source: I'm trying to do this shit for a living.


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It's not common to re-record most or all of the dialog in a studio. If a movie has to do that, it's considered a very bad sign for the crew that made it.

I was in a recording studio once and I overheard the people that work there talking about how funny it was that the entire cast of "Skyline" had to come in and re-record dialogue for pretty much the entire movie. It sounded like it wasn't common for that to happen. And if reviews are to be believed, the people making that film had no idea what they were doing.


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I dunno, just doesn't sound too plausible to me. I do know that almost all non-dialogue sound ("foley" work), even really tiny things like doors closing, papers being handled, people walking, etc., is dubbed in after the fact.

But I'd never heard the same about dialogue.


Fuck me, for the amount you guys talk about movies you know absolutely fuck all about production.

It's common for the majority and in many cases all of the dialogue to replaced via sound stage recording and mixed at the dub stage with the score and FX.

Only very low budget films have to rely on location recording and even
it's sometimes logistically impossible to get mics close enough to pickup dialogue without background noise (especially from crew) fucking it up.

If they just used recordings from location, why is foley used on every single film? Surely they can just use the sounds they recorded?

If anything, it's actually cheaper in the grand scheme of things to not have to worry about getting location dialogue recordings perfect and just do it all after the fact in a controlled environment (i.e. sound stage or studio).

I can tell you first hand that DR was done on all the films mentioned in this thread.

Source? I actually do this shit for a living (I'm a score engineer for hollywood composers).

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srussell0018
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Quazar
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Fuck me, for the amount you guys talk about movies you know absolutely fuck all about production.

It's common for the majority and in many cases all of the dialogue to replaced via sound stage recording and mixed at the dub stage with the score and FX.

Only very low budget films have to rely on location recording and even
it's sometimes logistically impossible to get mics close enough to pickup dialogue without background noise (especially from crew) fucking it up.

If they just used recordings from location, why is foley used on every single film? Surely they can just use the sounds they recorded?

If anything, it's actually cheaper in the grand scheme of things to not have to worry about getting location dialogue recordings perfect and just do it all after the fact in a controlled environment (i.e. sound stage or studio).

I can tell you first hand that DR was done on all the films mentioned in this thread.

Source? I actually do this shit for a living (I'm a score engineer for hollywood composers).


Aren't you saying that for scenes shot on sound stages, a re-recording isn't necessary? And most of the film is shot on sound stages, right? I don't see why you're quoting me here.

Calling the actors into a recording studio to re-record all of their dialogue in a film, sound stage scenes included, is unprofessional.


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srussell0018
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Calling the actors into a recording studio to re-record all of their dialogue in a film, sound stage scenes included, is unprofessional.


No it's not. The audio of a movie is just as important as the visual aspect. Wanting the sound to be perfect in a controlled environment isn't unprofessional at all.


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Quazar
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No it's not. The audio of a movie is just as important as the visual aspect. Wanting the sound to be perfect in a controlled environment isn't unprofessional at all.

Something tells me method actors (like Bale and Ledger) would not take kindly to having to act out the entire interrogation scene, for instance, only to have to go into a recording studio 4 months later and re-do the whole thing with only their voices.


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At least last time you Brits got pissed off, we got punk music out of it. This time, it'll probably just end up being embers breaks

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srussell0018
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Well it doesn't matter if that's just how things are done. Christian Bale is probably a prick about everything anyways.


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