Originally posted by Blake
Sounds like this would make an awesome movie!
haha yes
Apr-07-2012 21:01
Mattsanity.
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I realize yall are probably listening to a wicked mix right now, but I just wanted to post this video. It's one of my favorite youtube segments of a pastor who talks about evil, sin etc.
:49-1:49 stunned me.
Apr-07-2012 21:24
Arbiter
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
God allows suffering in the world because good has to prove its purity above it. Otherwise, people would be spoiled and wouldn't need to put in effort into living.
Has to prove it to whom? And for what purpose?
Not that it matters. If God were truly omnipotent, then God could achieve any purpose without the need for suffering.
That is, if God allows suffering for any reason, then it is either out of necessity--and, then, God is not all-powerful--or out of caprice--and, then, God is not all-good.
There are an infinite number of possible Gods. If you must believe in a God, allow me humbly to suggest one of them.
Apr-07-2012 21:51
Vector A
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quote:
Originally posted by 6meets9
Can someone tell me if this is true?
I laughed a little when I first read this but don't have the time to verify and research everything. Apparently Jesus Christ is going to return which is more commonly referred to as the second coming and unite the jews, muslims and christians and all abrahamic religions will set aside their differences and hatred for one another and fight as brothers and sisters in a war against evil, basically the devil and the antichrist and his army. Christ will lead the army of good and defeat evil after which there will be a thousand years of peace. This is the only way there will be peace in the middle east and everyone will live happily ever after LOL.
Sounds like a Canadian version of the rapture or something, lol.
The American version is that Jesus comes back and kills 99% of the people who aren't true blue born-again Christians. Then for good measure he sends them to hell.
Apr-07-2012 22:06
Desiderata
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
Sins aren't categorized into tiers. Someone who rapes or murders is no different from someone who uses profanity.
You're absolutely right when you say anyone who breaks God's laws aren't allowed to go to heaven. Have you ever stolen something? Have you ever lied? Have you ever disliked someone? I've done all three with no limit, so there's no way I'm going to be acquitted with God as the judge. I deserve hell, or I deserve life in prison.
Without Jesus' death on the cross, hell would be the only option for people. That is why he's the mediator for us to believe in him and enter God's kingdom.
This is the best I can do for you.
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Apr-07-2012 22:36
Blake
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Ah Christianity ; it's as if The Holocaust were gang banged by a thousand 9/11's!
Originally posted by Arbiter
Has to prove it to whom? And for what purpose?
Not that it matters. If God were truly omnipotent, then God could achieve any purpose without the need for suffering.
That is, if God allows suffering for any reason, then it is either out of necessity--and, then, God is not all-powerful--or out of caprice--and, then, God is not all-good.
There are an infinite number of possible Gods. If you must believe in a God, allow me humbly to suggest one of them.
God has to prove it to men and women so they can take the focus off themselves and live a humble life. I'm not saying atheists are arrogant, but to put humans at the top of the food chain is a big statement considering our imperfections and mortality.
There are thousands of gods, but only the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (aka I AM WHO I AM) can love the world so much that he sent his only begotten son to save people from flat out wickedness.
The bottom line is, men are evil, and only Jesus Christ can save us.
Apr-08-2012 16:52
Desiderata
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Originally posted by Mattsanity. [/]
The bottom line is, [b]men are evil, and only Jesus Christ can save us.
No my friend, Men are Human. And add a Wo to men and they are also Human.
You are trying to say Mankind is evil, aren't you. Not just Men.
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Apr-08-2012 17:25
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If you need god/a god to recognize and understand the difference between right and wrong, and to motivate you to be a "good" person, then you are a simpleton, imo.
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Apr-08-2012 17:40
Intellekshual
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
God has to prove it to men and women so they can take the focus off themselves and live a humble life. I'm not saying atheists are arrogant, but to put humans at the top of the food chain is a big statement considering our imperfections and mortality.
Making the claim that god exists in the first place is the biggest statement and leaves you with the burden of proof. Whether you like it or not.
An Atheist would never make such claims, it seems to me that the arrogant ones are people like yourself who not only claim to know that there is a god, but know exactly what he thinks, what he wishes you to do, what you can and cannot eat, what bits of your genitals he wants you to cut off, who to have sex with and in what position.. Do you see what I mean?
I don't need some sugary fantasy or a paradise (nor some shady bullshit threat of a fairy tale judgement) to make me happy or to act morally, I can do it on my own.
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Apr-08-2012 18:12
EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
:49-1:49 stunned me.
Honestly, I really don't understand why you haven't been permabanned, yet.
Originally posted by Miss Pie
If you need god/a god to recognize and understand the difference between right and wrong, and to motivate you to be a "good" person, then you are a simpleton, imo.
Exactly, you don't need imaginary friends to have a moral compass.
And in unrelated news...
This is one of my favorite scenes from an Indie film that was made in Austin, Texas in 1991 or 1992.
The whole movie is Hipster gold.
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