Registered: Mar 2011
Location: south west of england
it would be nice to see some reward for my efforts i think having the chance to sell your own work knowing people will buy it is a great thing.
but it is a hobby so i dont want to ruin that fun side of it.
Apr-18-2012 10:20
Richard Butler
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London
I have a steely determination to produce top draw stuff but as yet have not produced anything I am proud of, and maybe I never will, but none the less I'm not a quitter and it is my certain ambition to be able to produce a track (s) that at last could be 'considered up there' and one day say to my kids you can achieve something if you put your mind to it. Monetary rewards from music would be nice but I have resigned to think that would be a bonus rather than something to aim for.
In the meantime I run my own business and earn a good living and that was dream number 1 from as early as I can recall. I cannot deal with being bossed about, it's just not in my DNA.
The core of my musical world view is that there are a zillion people out there producing, so somehow being able to develop that elixir of originality combined with top draw production values would be pretty neat.
Incredibly hard to be original in an ocean of talent.
Apr-18-2012 12:43
shadowsthatmove
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2012
Location: Dublin
I love djing and if i honest i started producing just because i wanted to get more gigs. While doing that i got the bug for production and now im addicted to it aswell. I'll always be a dj before i a producer but i cant imagine anything better than making a living from music.
Everyone has there dream job and this is mine. Im only 21 and my only commitments are to music. So over the next few years i want to push myself as far as i can go. Id rather pursue my dreams and fail than regret never try it all.
Apr-18-2012 14:51
Raphie
info@dropboxmastering.com
Registered: Jun 2008
Location:
Don't want to DJ, don't really like writing on high pace anymore either
being 41, im happy with engineering, mixing and mastering jobs and i'm lucky to have a decent amount of those. Not enough to quit my other job, but enough to pay taxes, which i deduct by buying new gear
I'm too old and not good enough to be top dog within the the current vibes. don't like the hyped up brostep, electro type dubstep shite, or dutch house crap.
so, that leaves me making old farts trance/techno and moving slowly into more ambient styles.
And working for and with others keeps me sane, and keeps the pressure of for the need to find that ROI on all those investments.
so living the life, enjoying the ride, not having a set destination.
Originally posted by Raphie
Don't want to DJ, don't really like writing on high pace anymore either
being 41, im happy with engineering, mixing and mastering jobs and i'm lucky to have a decent amount of those. Not enough to quit my other job, but enough to pay taxes, which i deduct by buying new gear
Judging from your set up you look like you earn a very good living
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
In the meantime I run my own business and earn a good living and that was dream number 1 from as early as I can recall. I cannot deal with being bossed about, it's just not in my DNA.
Awesome. I have tons of respect for people who earn a living with their own business. I started one myself about a year ago and so far can only buy a cup of coffee a day on it :P
I don't mean to sound like a suck up but I really like your music and hope you make it!
I remember hearing that sean tyas, joc and sniejder were all here at one point, so maybe if you want to "make it" this is the place to be lol.
Apr-18-2012 17:25
cryophonik
Lunik Fanatik
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
quote:
Originally posted by shadowsthatmove
I remember hearing that sean tyas, joc and sniejder were all here at one point, so maybe if you want to "make it" this is the place to be lol.
Don't forget Deadmau5 - he still hangs around on occasion.
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Apr-18-2012 17:33
Magnus
AKA Michael Lee
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: USA
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I'm not chasing it. If it happens though some bizarre twist of timing, fate and my dashing good looks, then great, otherwise, I'm honestly not fussed.
My situation is a little different though - I made it to the very top in my chosen field (engineering) - actually further than I thought I ever would - and when i got there, I did it for a few years then realised I really didn't want it - at least not that life, and not as something my livelihood and bank balance depended on. I'm happy for it to be a passionate hobby rather than a career.
I am kind of in a similar boat. If it happens, it happens, but my plan B is my day job working for Microsoft, which provides a great life for me, so I feel no pressure one way or the other. I see so many people betting it all on their music which is a huge mistake.
I'm chasing this dream as best as I can given my economic and medical circumstances. I would indeed like to DJ/produce as a career. If, though, this doesn't work out then I have a plan B (i.e., two university degrees) on which to fall back.
Apr-19-2012 01:06
chris marsh
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2012
Location: london
I wanted to work in music when i was younger - worked for a drum and bass record label and then did work experience at a studio. i spent more time answering the phone than in the studio and in the end not being able to pay the rent won. My tracks back then were massively lacking - in fact i never really finished anything.
Now i at least have the discipline to learn all the stuff you need to learn, and the resources for learning are much better - ive got my day job as a fireman which is good - but realized i cant shake the love of music/production off.
In the future id be hugely happy to have the occasional release on a reasonably credible label that would be more than enough for me. Im happy to have finally found a style(prog/trance)that i want to do and has everything i want - but have much to learn before reaching the kind of level i would like to reach quality wise.
Never expect to make any money. If i can get my skills to the correct level i want to start production tutorials for beginners - this way i might earn a bit of cash as i think there's a good market here in London
Last edited by chris marsh on Apr-19-2012 at 09:40
Apr-19-2012 09:01
Akira_Kayosa
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Northants
the main thing is you have to enjoy doing it, more than that you have to love doing it, (for most this is the reason why you begin on the road right?)
the rabbit hole is deep and many twists and turns lay in wait..
being signed to the biggest labels within your given field still does not guarantee gigs and certainly no steady stream of income off the records sales (presuming you hit anything over 500 even on the big labels- good ole zippyshare)
talent alone today isn't quite enough, you need solid branding,something hugely marketable and money, either backing from yourself or some 3rd party interest that's going to invest in you (some labels still do this, only some)backing yourself is great but you have to be realistic and very very honest with yourself, how much money and time are you willing to throw at this dream/goal??
being you are making enough noise to step away from the 9-5 and concentrate on making the records and spinning the gigs full time, that's great if it happens, if you make the step too early and the pressure is on, these things come into play quite heavily, A, make sure your agent is finding the gigs consistently, B, you or your engineer needs to be pushing out tunes steadily all year round neither of which could even be covering standard living costs
the passion & love will soon stand in a different light when it comes to making sure you have food on the table and can just plain get by in your life each day..
this all probably reads really negatively lol, i dont mean it to be, and I'm certainly not, i love what i do, with all the people involved and the scene for all its good parts and the side cart of shit, Ive not even considered moving away from my day job, my schedule is bonkers juggling that and a full time studio schedule too, along with gigs and my radio show.
its a shame these days there isn't much money in all areas of the industry, even respected 'big' names are looking over their shoulders wondering where the next gig is coming from. kinda says it all right?