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Mattsanity.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheTrinity
Jesus living during the roman times was a fabrication. Jesus was Zeus, the God of lightning, and he stood for truth, law, justice and order.


I respect all the threads and posts you've contributed to Sushipunk's COR. Zeus is great, but Jesus was a real person who suffered for the sake of righteousness to pay off our debts of sin. He wasn't some superhero who thought well of himself.

A man who does not have all his hopes crushed regarding his own merit and self worth cannot turn to Christ.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mattsanity.
but Jesus was a real person who suffered for the sake of righteousness to pay off our debts of sin.


You got any proof beyond a very, very, very old fairy tale that has been translated so many times it has lost most of its original content?


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Mattsanity.
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You got any proof beyond a very, very, very old fairy tale that has been translated so many times it has lost most of its original content?


Moral Hazard is ahead of my curve when it comes to theology, so I'm sure he can give a better answer.

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I think the only part of that claim that holds any water is that Jesus was a real person. Key word: person.


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Mattsanity.
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Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death
even death on a cross! - Philippians 2

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Key word: ... son.


Oh now look whatcha did.


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Mattsanity.
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seems like I'm going off topic again. should I just bump the christianity thread?

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Well *I* wouldn't count on it resurrecting itself.


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TheTrinity
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quote:
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but Jesus was a real person who suffered for the sake of righteousness to pay off our debts of sin.


you are only saved, if you save yourself from sin. your sin debt doesnt magically get paid. God the Son, predated any stories of God in flesh. no part of Trinity, can save someone from evil, except if one becomes one with truth. Death kills all that which is evil, and all that which does not evolve towards truth, is evil. if you are evil, you will be punished. no amount of repentance or remorse for your actions will save you from death, unless you wake up and actively try to help save the world from the destruction of the world because of evil.

if someone is evil, God cannot save him from death. actually, Death the spirit is the part of God, which kills all which is evil.

do not be fooled by religious blasphemy. religion is as corrupt as everything else that humanity has laid its hands on.

no one died for your sins, but everyone will pay for their sins with death. death cannot kill truth, so if you find the truth, you will continue to live, even after death. death for the body, is not death for the soul, unless the soul is evil.


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quote:
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I think the only part of that claim that holds any water is that Jesus was a real person. Key word: person.


then how come the quotes from the original Word of God still remain within the Bible.

Only God can write the word of God, so whenever God the Son was here, he wrote the Law of order, law of word, and law of behavior and morality.

it lurks deep beneath the human corruption and incompetence, but you can still find traces of it in the Bible.

God the Son has been on Earth before. it just wasnt 'the Jesus story'.

because God the Son stood for truth, justice, order and law, natural law and order was restored so that civilizations may evolve towards truth, and towards perfection that God seeks, and demands of the universe.

this is how modern civilizations began. it was all through the objectification of language.


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Only God can write the word of God


The word of God.


^^Hey look, I can write it. I must be God.

*Smites TheTrinity*


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TheTrinity
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quote:
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The word of God.


^^Hey look, I can write it. I must be God.

*Smites TheTrinity*


explain the nothing and the everything of the universe, and what is God's role of this, and what the Word of God actually stands for.

ill be waiting might be a while.


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