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Exorcism of Emily Rose - Exorcism Real?
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::TranceVanDyk::
couldnt really find anything on the real story the the movie is based on. personally, i think there will be a lot of hollywood in it, but nonetheless, there are many well-documented accounts on demonic possession.

"The Catholic Church still defines true signs of possession as displaying superhuman strength, often accompanied by fits and convulsions; changes in personality; having knowledge of the future or other secret information; and being able to understand and converse in languages not previously known to the victim, such as the phenomenon glossolalia."

but, what do you thinkers think about the notion of demonic possession and the dark supernatural occurances that happen in the some of the most well-documented cases, in which science had no cure or explaination?

do you think its farce, or something beyond our natural world.

EDIT::interesting article

Objective Research

Possession according to the Christian Church
St_Andrew
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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
there are many well-documented accounts on demonic possession.


Are there? Please show us!

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Objective Research


:stongue: :haha:
::TranceVanDyk::
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
Are there? Please show us!



:stongue: :haha:


look it up yourself.

im just asking what your thoughts are.
St_Andrew
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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
look it up yourself.

im just asking what your thoughts are.


well you stated something so you should back it up, no?

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Science does recognize that "possession" exists, but only in the sense that some people occasionally behave in a way that fits the expected behavior of a possessed people. However, in spite of many attempts, it has not been able to find any reproducible proof of the existence of "spiritual beings"; therefore, it finds much easier to explain such altered mental state by natural causes, such as stress, mental illness, intoxication, use of drugs, etc.. Just as migraine headaches have recently been proposed as a fitting explanation for many historical cases of spiritual visions, it may be that many cases of spiritual possession were in fact epileptic attacks.

Some cases of demonic possession may also be explainable by purely psychological or social causes, e.g. hysteria — roughly, a grown-up versions of children tantrums. In fact this explanation was liberally mis-applied since the 19th century. In the past, demonic possession may also have been alleged (by the subject or by others) for the purpose of excusing behavior which would otherwise be severely punished — not unlike a defendant falsely claiming temporary insanity in today's court of law.

Incarnations are often feigned by dishonest priests and mediums for fraudulent puposes, e.g. by pretending to communicate with someone's deceased relatives in exchange for payment of "donations". The famous U.S. escape artist Houdini was instrumental in exposing several such frauds in the 1920s.
George Smiley
In the 21st century we call it "mental illness"

Political correctness gone mad if you ask me!
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