Using limiter as volume control
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TrAnCeMaSteR |
So the other day a producer friend gave me a tip...and I'm not sure what to think of it. Basically he says that I should never touch the fader and do volume control through limiting using the ceiling. I get why he's saying it, but is this the same as compressing the out of everything? I know messing with the threshold is, but not exactly sure if lowering the ceiling does the same thing...thoughts?
...and more importantly..is this a good idea? |
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J.L. |
He is not your friend then.
Or he has very bad habits. |
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jayxthekoolest |
That might be a good strategy if you are trying to stay in the moment and produce all the sounds and melodies for the track within an hour - three hours without focusing on mixing at all. However I would definitely not recommend mixing that way when you are actually trying to mix the track. |
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Kam |
the limiter can be good if your using automation on the channel which might send the levels up (reverb/distortion/etc). |
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cryophonik |
quote: | Originally posted by TrAnCeMaSteR
So the other day a producer friend gave me a tip...and I'm not sure what to think of it. Basically he says that I should never touch the fader and do volume control through limiting using the ceiling. I get why he's saying it, but is this the same as compressing the out of everything? I know messing with the threshold is, but not exactly sure if lowering the ceiling does the same thing...thoughts?
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No, lowering the ceiling does not do the same thing as adjusting the threshold. The ceiling is an absolute limit. The threshold is a relative adjustment that applies gain reduction based on the input level. The two parameters work in conjunction to determine how much headroom you have.
quote: | Originally posted by TrAnCeMaSteR
...and more importantly..is this a good idea? |
Generally speaking, no. But, if you leave the threshold at zero (no gain reduction applied), the ceiling essentially acts as a fader and can be used as a simple brickwall to safeguard against "overs". |
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tehlord |
quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Generally speaking, no. But, if you leave the threshold at zero (no gain reduction applied), the ceiling essentially acts as a fader and can be used as a simple brickwall to safeguard against "overs". |
You might still be adding a certain colouration depending on the limiter and it's algorithm, but whether that's noticable or not is debatable.
I sometimes use Cytomik The Glue on the master out set to zero as a free gain booster as sometimes if I'm on a quiet mix my headphone out's on the Saffire 6 i'm using are too quiet. I can't say it's effected a mix thus far. |
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clay |
all these volume threads again. its a cycle. in a month well be back on sidechaining. its all been done before....
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TrAnCeMaSteR |
quote: | Originally posted by clay
all these volume threads again. its a cycle. in a month well be back on sidechaining. its all been done before....
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lol as i read that i saw 3 other threads right next to mine with volume control as the title. i was just curious to see if anybody does this. Thanks for the info guys. |
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