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Abortion/Religion/Animals in RESPONCE to WickedNEO
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
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How u made that connection is totally beyond me, if there is any connection at all to be made in that, then it should be that people have the freedom of choice. |
The connection between the 2 is animals aswell as babies are God's creatures...and isnt 1 major thing that prolifers argue about saying you can not let a baby die due to abortion its one of Gods creatures...thats the similarity...both groups are trying to preserve life
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: At least we as Humans have come to realise that we have done damage to this planet and are now working on the whole to recitfy that damage, we have learnt from our mistakes, we have learnt from our science and technology and we have done this in far less time than natural evolution could do for us. |
Ya realized it after we caused the destruction.
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
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I very much doubt that, if anything Human's are now fighting for the survival of this planet with one or two exceptions, |
this is in response to me saying humans will be the cause of the end of the world...and you say you doubt it...why do you think we are taking these steps to preserve so hard, it cus we destroyed it to the point where we have NO choice but to make serious changes.
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: in the last 10 years we have banned CFC's from aerosol's, we use unleaded gas, we recycle, we fight against pollution, we are using alternative methoeds of power such as solar energy, we are fighting against things like Whale hunting in the oceans, hunting for sport, we strive to help those countries worse off then the UK or the USA, take Ethiopia, the WORLD pulled together to help those ppl and to bring them back from starvation and total dependence on us so they can now fight and support themselves. |
Ethiopia was about 15 years ago and thats not preserving the enviroment..its preserving people.....who figghts against pollution?..you mean all those plants with the smoke stacks the surround most major cities or the people who buy SUV trucks that spit out more fumes then cars and then complain that gas prices are too high meanwhile they drive tanks that give them 10 miles per gallon...whale hunting is still going on like it always has been...its just the poachers are better at not getting caught.
Look at all the highways with the cars polluting the air, all the planes that spew fumes of jet fuel non stop daily into the air, look at how much people still litter, yes we recycle but with cans we had to pay people 5 cents percan to get them to do it hardcore...and besides all that helped was the homeless since they are the main ones who pick up all the cans we leave behind cus some people are too lazy to throw them in the garbage.....look at all the oil spills into the oceans killing the fish and birds..seems like that happens way too often.....geeeeee this winter was VERY warm compared to most winters...maybe its cus we have pretty much destroyed atmosphere and global warming is finnally showing some effects...what about all the rainforests we knock down daily and all the animals who depend on the forest and the trees to survive....there is so much destruction that we have caused its sickening....to deny that is absurd and you know it as do most other people in this world....
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: If u and i was living just 100 years ago, then half the ppl that u know would not be alive, cos of polluted water, inapproate waste disposal, the lack of knowledge in curing simple diseases, the list is endless., |
your right with the diseases and maybe waste dispossal...but tell me what 100 years ago caused air pollution...NOTHING DID...dont know where you got that from.
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: Originally posted by tiesto14
To an extant...God's plan originally was for humans to be vegetarians and after he flooded the earth he said one day we will be again..
1st u say that then u say (btw where is your evidence to support the above ? ) ., |
The Old Testament clearly states that God wanted Adam & Eve to be vegetarians....
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[So on one hand you are saying that we should follow god's word and then on the other hand u are saying its impossible, weird . . . |
NOT WEIRD...u misunderstood what i said...i was trying to make a point that people who preach about pro-life and the Bible talk about God's creatures and so they should preserve animal life just as much as human life...specially considering in the New Testament God says in ISAIH that 1 day all humans will once again be vegetarians....but that does NOT mean i agree with what the Bible says., personally i think most of it is wives tales...i was just trying to show people who do beleive in it that God considers all creatures equal and that what Christianity preaches right...and yes scientifically speaking most of Christianity preaches is impossibilities
i am personally pro-choice and a pesco-vegetarian
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: in finishing, you seem to have no consideration for ppl's idea's that do not conform to your own preconcived ideas, this is not a debate as you appear neither to be willing to accept that other ppl have a different point of veiw to your own.
By calling ppl names and or swearing at them is not the way to conduct a debate, it merely shows a poor use of language. |
i never ONCE called someone a name untill they attacked me with statements like i am ignorant or what have you...go reread and you shall see...everyone is entitled to their opnion however i never bash soemones opinions unless they do mine...again go reread and you shall see....but when people present facts that just arent true well then sorry i will state the truth whether they wanna beleive it or not.....seems like most people here are Christian Liberal so no matter what i say will be wrong in their eyes...so keep being brainwashed and controlled...
| quote: | Originally posted by Wicked Neo
[quote: you seem to enjoy provoking ppl into heated arguements on subjects that even the greatest minds of our time have no answer for.. |
such as????????????
seems pretty lame that you went ahead and flamed me then closed the thread....so i felt it neccessary to respond...not cool to attack someone then not let them have a rebutle..... |
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| Ckerr812 |
| Woo...that seems to be alot of useless reading. Next time man just PM neo...I don't think to many people care about all this crap..lol :) |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ckerr812
woo...that seems to be alot of useless reading. At least if I am going to read a book, I'll make it one where the author has something intelligent to say :) |
see what i mean....here is a PRIME example of soemone calling my post unitelligent.....so why is it ok for this person to flame but not for me to defend myself......
and to CKERR what was unitelligent...you not responding with reasons is unintelligent.. |
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| Ckerr812 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
see what i mean....here is a PRIME example of soemone calling my post unitelligent.....so why is it ok for this person to flame but not for me to defend myself......
and to CKERR what was unitelligent...you not responding with reasons is unintelligent.. |
lol...I read the first two sentenses...that's enought for me. If the author dosen't grab me I change the thread. *yawn* whatever...I dun know....just seems like ranting to me. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
The connection between the 2 is animals aswell as babies are God's creatures...and isnt 1 major thing that prolifers argue about saying you can not let a baby die due to abortion its one of Gods creatures...thats the similarity...both groups are trying to preserve life
Ya realized it after we caused the destruction.
this is in response to me saying humans will be the cause of the end of the world...and you say you doubt it...why do you think we are taking these steps to preserve so hard, it cus we destroyed it to the point where we have NO choice but to make serious changes.
Ethiopia was about 15 years ago and thats not preserving the enviroment..its preserving people.....who figghts against pollution?..you mean all those plants with the smoke stacks the surround most major cities or the people who buy SUV trucks that spit out more fumes then cars and then complain that gas prices are too high meanwhile they drive tanks that give them 10 miles per gallon...whale hunting is still going on like it always has been...its just the poachers are better at not getting caught.
Look at all the highways with the cars polluting the air, all the planes that spew fumes of jet fuel non stop daily into the air, look at how much people still litter, yes we recycle but with cans we had to pay people 5 cents percan to get them to do it hardcore...and besides all that helped was the homeless since they are the main ones who pick up all the cans we leave behind cus some people are too lazy to throw them in the garbage.....look at all the oil spills into the oceans killing the fish and birds..seems like that happens way too often.....geeeeee this winter was VERY warm compared to most winters...maybe its cus we have pretty much destroyed atmosphere and global warming is finnally showing some effects...what about all the rainforests we knock down daily and all the animals who depend on the forest and the trees to survive....there is so much destruction that we have caused its sickening....to deny that is absurd and you know it as do most other people in this world....
your right with the diseases and maybe waste dispossal...but tell me what 100 years ago caused air pollution...NOTHING DID...dont know where you got that from.
The Old Testament clearly states that God wanted Adam & Eve to be vegetarians....
NOT WEIRD...u misunderstood what i said...i was trying to make a point that people who preach about pro-life and the Bible talk about God's creatures and so they should preserve animal life just as much as human life...specially considering in the New Testament God says in ISAIH that 1 day all humans will once again be vegetarians....but that does NOT mean i agree with what the Bible says., personally i think most of it is wives tales...i was just trying to show people who do beleive in it that God considers all creatures equal and that what Christianity preaches right...and yes scientifically speaking most of Christianity preaches is impossibilities
i am personally pro-choice and a pesco-vegetarian
i never ONCE called someone a name untill they attacked me with statements like i am ignorant or what have you...go reread and you shall see...everyone is entitled to their opnion however i never bash soemones opinions unless they do mine...again go reread and you shall see....but when people present facts that just arent true well then sorry i will state the truth whether they wanna beleive it or not.....seems like most people here are Christian Liberal so no matter what i say will be wrong in their eyes...so keep being brainwashed and controlled...
such as????????????
seems pretty lame that you went ahead and flamed me then closed the thread....so i felt it neccessary to respond...not cool to attack someone then not let them have a rebutle..... |
COAL POWER PLANTS were around back then... THAT'S what caused air pollution but, the bad part about this is that, there are alternative means of VEHICLE POWER. Why aren't electric and Sloar power put to the test and get rid of petrol power? It causes air pollution. See, we really just made out air woser by using petrol-powered cars and I have to say here that, so much of the things we are WASTING, we can make use of it! Magical word: RECYCLE! No matter WHAT it is, if it can be recycled, then you know it can be reused for another purpose! "To recycle" means "perform its life cycle again". THAT'S IT. It doesn't mean that it must perform the same way on EACH cycle, it just means to "RE-PERFORM", NOT "RE-PERFORM WHAT YOU JUST DID". I hope that this makes ANY sense..... If not, I'll rewrite it in a way that you can understand it...... |
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| Wicked Neo |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
seems pretty lame that you went ahead and flamed me then closed the thread....so i felt it neccessary to respond...not cool to attack someone then not let them have a rebutle..... |
I closed it to bring an end to the arguements and flames, your subject matter is designed to provoke, DO NOT open another thread with a response to this, any threads with that sort of subject matter will create strong opinions and deep emotions and i for one do not want to see ppl flameing each other again on these forums.
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