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| La5eR |
Ok this thought has been on my mind for a good decade now and I still havent found a resolve to my answers through the internet, textbooks, and other publications.
In todays society the different "racial" groups in the world cry racism or segregation every time something happens that is remotely exclusionary. By this I mean there are various funds out there: United Negro College Fund , American Indian College Fund , and others to name a few.
Just recently there was a student in California that made a European-heritage oriented group to promote the traditions brought up through the generations that originated in Europe that was carried over by some of the United States ancestors. This student was quickly called a racist and was deemed a negative influence on her societal surroundings by other groups that ARE members of their respective races organizations. Seeing as the world is getting more and more diverse and complex with the inter-marriage and inter-racial reproduction the barriers between race are slowly becoming a thing of the past. Why is it that races that HAVE been known to exercise exclusionary behaviors in the past chastised for forming organizations that are in essence the same as various other factions? I am fully prepared to get flamed in anyway possible for voicing my opinion on this issue. I merely posted this to get this topic of inter-personal discussion out in the open and gain insight on others feelings. |
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| idoru |
| You shouldn't be flamed, you pose an interesting question. My one question is, what is the skin color of the student who tried to form the group? If he's white, you can bet your ass that people will be ignorant about it. Is that hypocritical of those groups? Of course. |
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| SuspicionVandit |
it's cus they're ing idiots.
i can't believe high schools promote clubs in their "OMG, the Weekly Gazette, made by POPULAR fags" that center around racial groups. them all, just make a "Gangs club, Graffitti Club, Potheads Club, Computer Club, Smart People Club, etc"
but GOD FORBID the White Club |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
but GOD FORBID the White Club |
From the sound of things, it looks like it wasn't a "white club." It seems it was a European-tradition group that was formed by a white person. Any person of any color would've been able to join the group as long as they were in agreeance with their ideals.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, La5eR. |
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| La5eR |
| This European-Heritage club was formed to promote traditions from the northern most fringes of Finland to the southern most archipelagos of the Greek islands. The topics of discussion that are on the members minds cover a broad spectrum from language to food to styles of living. Yes, it was formed by a "white" student. But what I cant comprehend is the fact that people of African, Asian, and Latin American decent cried foul the moment they saw this group sprout up even though they have groups of their own that are just as exclusionary. |
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| Slylee |
| There’s just too much negative history surrounding racism. It’s like a double standard we ‘whities’ have to accept. It sucks, but they end up looking like the most ignorant ones in the end. Segregating themselves with such programs as you mentioned, and then crying racism when it’s convenient. I'm over it really. |
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| Jake Benson |
That's really f'ed up because the European group that guy was trying to form wasn't even "white," but of a national origin that had nothing to do with US racial inequalities.
People in LA are so racially P.C. it makes me iVomit.
Btw, I'm proud to be white. So proud that I don't tan! |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jake Benson
That's really f'ed up because the European group that guy was trying to form wasn't even "white," but of a national origin that had nothing to do with US racial inequalities.
People in LA are so racially P.C. it makes me iVomit.
Btw, I'm proud to be white. So proud that I don't tan! |
its too bad this isnt confined to LA. |
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| eckmek |
| The concept of race doesn't even make sense. Why won't people just quit with the racial bull...i don't get it. |
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| Akridrot |
Here is an old, but relevant article related to this issue.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=36764
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MINORITY REPORT
White African-American boy
not 'black' enough for award
National debate sparked after Caucasian student seeking 'race-based honor' booted out of school
Posted: January 25, 2004
3:37 p.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
The Omaha suspension of a white high-school student originally from South Africa is sending shock waves across America as debate rages over who can claim rights to the term "African-American."
South African native Trevor Richards suspended over African-American campaign
The case centers on Trevor Richards, a junior at Westside High School, who moved from Johannesburg to Nebraska six years ago.
Richards and his classmates, 16-year-old twins Paul and Scott Rambo, were booted from classes last week after distributing posters touting Trevor as a candidate for Westside High's "Distinguished African-American Student" award on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
"The posters were intended to be satire on the term African-American," Scott Rambo told the Omaha World-Herald.
Principal John Crook says the posters were disruptive.
"It was offensive to the individual being honored, to people who work here and to some students," Crook told the paper. "My role is to make sure we have a safe environment, physically and psychologically. We can't allow that kind of thing to be hung up on our walls."
Records from 2002-2003 indicate only 56 of Westside's 1,632 students were black, and some in this year's student body were reportedly upset by Richards' poster.
Ironically, the first two recipients of the student award were white.
"It was not intended at the beginning to be one race only," Clidie Cook, who helps organize the annual event, told the World-Herald.
But Westside officials pushed to change that, feeling the spirit of the honor meant giving it to a black student, and by 2001, the ministerial alliance in charge specified it was for blacks only.
Since the suspensions last week, the issue has been picked up by the Associated Press wire service, and has become a hot topic for columnists, talk radio and Internet messageboards.
"There is no room at the inn for the viewpoints of conservatives, libertarians, Christians, or constitutionalists in the public indoctrination system," says David Huntwork, a conservative activist in Fort Collins, Colo., who criticized the squashing of "this gallant expression of grassroots activism."
The ABC television affiliate in Omaha, KETV, has been swamped with comments on its Internet messageboard.
Among the postings:
* I attend Westside and I am in support for Trevor. Trevor is one of only maybe one or two other people that are actually from Africa. Trevor is more of an African-American than any other "African-American" at Westside. It is also wrong that there is an award for only black students when every other award at Westside is for everyone and everyone has an equal chance to receive those awards if they try.
* If you mean black award, say black award. If you must be racist, that is.
* Why are white Americans constantly hounded, ridiculed and stripped of any racial identity? Why is it OK for everyone to be racist, except white Americans? ... Can you imagine black students getting suspended for joining the "black student union" or any other black group on any campus, or workplace in America? This racism against white Americans must stop.
* I think the administrators should be fired. This is going too far. Let's get a grip people! God this makes me sick. Fire those people!
* As a Canadian white male, I have worked with and befriended a few black people. I never once heard them refer themselves as African-Canadians.
* [T]echnically, Trevor is most likely Afrikaans-African-American or Dutch-African-American considering the white descendants of South Africa are from those European descents. So if you want to talk technically, he still is not eligible for this award. The truth is that everyone who is writing these absurd comments knows what African-American means. It is a black person. The term given to this ethnic group has changed over the decades from Negroes to colored people to black and finally African-American. It is a descriptor.
The label "African-American" is not universally used by blacks today, as evinced by companies and groups such as Black Entertainment Television, the Congressional Black Caucus, and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, better known as the NAACP.
A search of more than 200 U.S. newspapers geared predominantly toward blacks finds at least 16 have the word "black" in the title, while only five have "African-American."
As WorldNetDaily reported last summer, a member of Congress, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Texas, ignited national controversy when she reportedly sought an affirmative-action plan of sorts for hurricane names.
"All racial groups should be represented," Lee said, according to the Hill. She hoped federal weather officials "would try to be inclusive of African-American names."
Related story:
'Black' hurricane names
brewing swirl of dissent |
Even though this guy was African-American (or Afrikaans-African-American/Dutch-African-American as that last guy said), he got in trouble because his skin color. These issues obviously aren't about nationality, they are about color. People are conflating color with the terms "African/European-American", and denying people the right to celebrate their heritage based on that. Not fair at all (in any case).
Whites grouping together because of their skin color is primarily associated with racism, such as the KKK. So any time there is a group based on skin color, and the color is white, then it will be perceived as racist, with no consideration of what the group's intentions are.
In the U.S, it seems like we are taught that discrimination against blacks/non-whites because of skin color is wrong, rather than discrimination against anyone (including whites) because of skin color is wrong. Naturally, this will result in non-whites believing that they are entitled to any race-based benefits while whites aren't. I personally believe that if you are for one race, and against another, but say you are "against racism and discrimination," you are full of . Either you are OK with Black Only and White Only groups, or against both.
Both of the articles are really frustrating. |
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| Dj O'Callaghan |
Digusting it really s me off how the system nails white people these days you can't do anything without being called racist, homophobic or a bigot. They should allow a group for European heritage and you should be proud of it too.
It's the liberal politicially correct mafia taking over. In the States rather then countinue on with their petty little crusade against Joe Average then perhaps they should take a look at their own backyard a bit, because you have white supremacist groups all over the shot however the PC Mafia only bullies normal people not the real offenders. |
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| Boomer187 |
listen, you are only allowed to perform racist behavior if you are in an out-group. But if you are a member of the in-group you are only allowed to be discriminated against.
this will only need one hugely publicized case and it should end it. for years african americans fought for equal rights. Now everyone should fight for truely equal rights. |
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