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Psychologists claim ecstasy may not cause long-term harm
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| Malice |
i came across this article from DJmag.com, and thouught it might interest alot of people here so... here it is..
ECSTASY REPORT SPARKS OUTRAGE
Psychologists claim ecstasy may not cause long-term harm
Leading psychologists have caused a stir with claims that Ecstasy might not be dangerous at all.
The three psychologists - two English and one American - have claimed that findings published from studies on Ecstasy, a drug previously blamed for causing possible brain damage and a series of deaths, might be inaccurate.
Articles published by Dr John Cole, Harry Sumnall and the USA's Prof Charles Grob in the British Psychological Society magazine claimed that many of the studies carried out since 1995 have been flawed.
Those studies showed that Ecstasy effects the cells in the brain that produce serotonin, the chemical that's known to influence a person's mood. Use of Ecstasy, according to findings from those original studies, degenerates these cells.
However, this trio of psychologists said that Ecstasy use degenerates the nerve fibres, which can be re-grown, rather than the cells themselves.
The team accused scientists who carried out the studies of placing less focus on the data that suggests that exposure to Ecstasy has no long term effect and said that only the positive results of the studies were reported in detail.
In their article in the BPS they said: "This suggests that hypotheses concerning the long term effects of Ecstasy are not being uniformly substantiated and lends support to the idea that Ecstasy is not causing long term effects associated with the loss of serotonin."
While clubbers continue to take Ecstasy in large quantities - figures show that up to two million pills are consumed each weekend in the UK - the effects of these pills are still not known fully.
Deaths related to Ecstasy have risen in the past decade with the record figure of 27 E-related deaths in 2000. Of those 27 who died, 19 of them had other drugs in their systems and while the exact cause of death was not established, where it has been, the cause has been attributed to dehydration.
Since the article was published in the BPS a string of response articles have appeared in national newspapers. Paul Betts, father of Leah Betts who died after taking the drug in 1995, called the BPS article 'despicable'.
Meanwhile, there's no doubt that the views printed by Cole, Sumnall and Grob will prompt further studies into the effects of Ecstasy. |
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| jploveparade |
| Nothing is harmfull when used with precausion! |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jploveparade
Nothing is harmfull when used with precausion! |
it all depends on the dosis.. i agree! |
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| Tranzlucent |
X is good for you.... trust me!
take 1 day, to keep the doctor away!
:stongue: :haha: :stongue: :haha: :stongue: :haha: :tongue3 |
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| Dmatrox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Malice
However, this trio of psychologists said that Ecstasy use degenerates the nerve fibres, which can be re-grown, rather than the cells themselves.
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By the way, nerve cells dont regenerate in the central nervous system (brain and spinal cord). When people take E where do you think the nerves are affect most, the CNS or PNS. The CNS is affected most, where nerve cells dont have myelin sheath and WILL NOT regenerate. Only cells aside from the brain and spinal cord will regrow.
Do these people have a formal proper lab report? if so i want to see it |
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| Trancewave |
| then can someone explain to me about memory loss then!? :whip: I used to use e regularly and now I'm still feeling the effects of memory loss. I don't get depression like so many other people do but my short term memory has gotten ridiculous. |
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| montie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancewave
then can someone explain to me about memory loss then!? :whip: I used to use e regularly and now I'm still feeling the effects of memory loss. I don't get depression like so many other people do but my short term memory has gotten ridiculous. |
well most ecstasy on the market isnt fully MDMA or isn't MDMA at all. There are alot of other drugs in the pills people are taking. these drugs also have a strong effect on your brain add in the mixtrue with MDMA and there is going to be an even stronger effect on your brain. this is possibly what would lead to your short term memory loss (considering this is a valid study and it is right)
I personlly don't know how valid of a study this actually is, but im willing to assume that they used pure (as pure as it can be made) MDMA. which means that their study shows that pure MDMA doesn't have long term effects on teh brain. |
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| QRIUS1 |
| yeah, i agree with you on dat one... I mean, I^m living proof that it does something to you. I was never popping it on a daily basis or even weekly (more like once every 3 months) and even today, after 1 year of avoiding it, i still feeel the loss of memory effects. Poor me, my memory will never be the same again..... :crazy: :eyespop: :tongue3 :conf: |
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| mongeone |
i think you wanna blame XTC on your bad memory... you believe its done something to you when it really hasnt.
before i took xtc my memory was crap and it still is crap... however i still manage to study languages and keep up with everyone else who has never done drugs... and if you need memory for anything you neeed it most for japanese...
bah ive had alot more drugs then one every 3 months as well i useed to pop 3 pills a night every saturday night and have goie and alchohol on the side.. ive tried just about every drug under the sun thats available in sydney (besides heroin) and all it did to me was open my eyes to the e that were fed...
everything in moderation is safe you just gotta have respect for you and your body and understand you limits... hell people in iran smoke scorpian blood to much and it poisons you but the right amount and your high as a kite!!!
thats my two cents anys... maybe im just magical and drugs dont harm me liket hey do others... i did lose a bit of weight but hehe |
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| Trancewave |
| quote: | Originally posted by mongeone
i think you wanna blame XTC on your bad memory... you believe its done something to you when it really hasnt.
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I don't "think" i believe it's done something to my memory, I "KNOW" that it has. I haven't touched ecstasy for over a year now and even today sometimes I even forget things people say to me just like 5 minutes ago.....and this is on a regular basis for a few months at a time!!:eek: this has never ever happened to me before.:whip: :whip: |
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| mongeone |
that happens to most people...
your not gonna remember everything from 5 minutes ago... whether youve used drugs or not alot of people still forget the names of people they have just met and need to be reminded of it several times...
im realistic i do believe that it can harm you but only to a certain degree and not to the extent that the government and others claim so it may have affected you but on the whole I tend to think people exaggerate the effects or tend to wnat to believe they are there to move the blame on there inability to do something to the drugs sot hat they dont have to accept the fact that they arnt the smartest people in the world.
dont get me wrong im not trying to say your bulls*hitting your self or anything... i believe what you say, i should ahve worded the sentance you quoted better. Its just i have seen many people in the rave/dance scene in sydney say all this stuff and 90% of the time its completely bull!!!
but it does astound me that qrius1 claims to have taken xtc about once everythree months and has memory loss when i took it for about 2 years straight several everyweekend and with other drugs and cant say taht i have any affects and most of my friends are the same.... it just seems a little weird to me!! |
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| NetX |
considering that Iīm reasonably young, feel quite well and find the feeling of trancing a night away on good E absolutely fabulous... well what the heck with the risks. Itīs not as if Iīm blowing my mind with 5-E-a-night or stuff like that... I guess my smoking is worse.
And it at least frees me for a couple of hours from other worries I may have - and thatīs totally worth it for me.
But luckily everyone has other standards - live and let die...
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