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Cheese is good man but there is something not right about overall mix, can't put my fingers around yet but doesn't sound right (I means ready for next step lol) yet.

Maybe after listen to it few more time I will have better idea about some specific issues Richard (compression, limiting or ??????)

Darek

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I'm really jealous of the amazing soundcape here and in the previous one. Real proper techno sounds. Is the Nord making the decent techno dark stab thing here? Just the sounds I crave. Nice tracks, real easy to listen to

thanks Richard, i think the stab is actually the Q - the nord is playing the chord

Nice feature on the Q is the ability to set a Random Patch - so you just hit the button and invariably it will throw something interesting and usable at you (and sometimes some god awful aliased ear splitting nonsense too )

A lot of fxpansion Bloom delay and VVV as well

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Originally posted by Richard Butler The most cheese you'll ever hear. This is that sports track I've made. In this edit I've removed the chorus vocals and most other vocal passages as I wanted feedback on the mix of the instrumentation. Any mix issues?

mix sounds ok i think but im listening on my headphones in work

I got inspired listening to the stuff evo posted, had to make some atmospheric / dubish techno. It is a bit rough around the edges as I hammered it out in a few hour session but let me know if the concept is hit or miss... Could use some mixing advice too. I am torn on whether the kick has too much reverb

Used alot of 2CAudio Kaleidoscope for those evolving / string parts... interesting trying to work it into more uptempo music.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler The most cheese you'll ever hear. This is that sports track I've made. In this edit I've removed the chorus vocals and most other vocal passages as I wanted feedback on the mix of the instrumentation. Any mix issues?

Mix sounds good to me, listening on headphones though. I feel like maybe the kick could maybe hit with a bit more "oomph" or be turned up slightly.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler The most cheese you'll ever hear. This is that sports track I've made. In this edit I've removed the chorus vocals and most other vocal passages as I wanted feedback on the mix of the instrumentation. Any mix issues?

Richard, can you check for me this piano right from beginning as it is coming to my left site bit more then the center also if you could take of some sidechain off main pad/s to let the melody come through a bit more because right now I can only hear kick with bass and at some moments a lead - just some few observation at the moment.

Cheers man,

Darek

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken something im working. [[ LINK REMOVED ]] lacsk structure, efex and transitions and mixing of course.

I would gladly listen to your creation but I can't download at work lol,
maybe a SoundCloud

Darek

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken it has a in-web player too, however you need flash. oh i thought soundcloud was dead?

Many places of employment block file sharing services like Zippyshare.

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Originally posted by djnitride I got inspired listening to the stuff evo posted, had to make some atmospheric / dubish techno. It is a bit rough around the edges as I hammered it out in a few hour session but let me know if the concept is hit or miss... Could use some mixing advice too. I am torn on whether the kick has too much reverb Used alot of 2CAudio Kaleidoscope for those evolving / string parts... interesting trying to work it into more uptempo music.

i love the concept but i dont like the string sounds, theyre a bit harsh to my ears im not familiar with this Kaleidoscope synth, it may be ok to play these incidentally but throughout the whole track i find them a bit fatiguing

love the kick/bass combo! and the sync sounds are win

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Originally posted by evo8 i love the concept but i dont like the string sounds, theyre a bit harsh to my ears im not familiar with this Kaleidoscope synth, it may be ok to play these incidentally but throughout the whole track i find them a bit fatiguing love the kick/bass combo! and the sync sounds are win

Thanks for the feedback... I spent like 1 hour designing the kicks reverb in B2 ... probably the most powerful reverb plugin in existence. Its crazy all of the spacial features you can add to a sound with it and shape it exactly how you have it in your head... guess that's why they call it a "Spacial Processor"

Yeah I did notice the fatigue issue somewhat on some of the drone strings more resonant frequencies. I tried to EQ/compress it away but I don't think it worked well enough... just too much resonance at certain frequencies left over. Think I will take those elements of the track back to the drawing board.

So my main reference Hi-FI system went south on my (Rotel) and can quite finish this track without an idea how this sounds on HI-FI speakers, just wondering about bass level and how is translating.

Cheers guys,



Darek

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 So my main reference Hi-FI system went south on my (Rotel) and can quite finish this track without an idea how this sounds on HI-FI speakers, just wondering about bass level and how is translating. Cheers guys, Darek

Mix is sounding on point though I don't have HiFi speakers, listening on my Sennheiser PC363D headset (pretty good fidelity for a headset )

The track has a real nice vibe to it, like alot of the snappy rhythmic synth elements you used, works well and has its own unique flavor. Great atmosphere and progression as well.

My only gripe is around 48 seconds where the saw sound has just faded out, only to come back in briefly. Seems like the release should be a bit shorter on the volume envelope. Just my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 So my main reference Hi-FI system went south on my (Rotel) and can quite finish this track without an idea how this sounds on HI-FI speakers, just wondering about bass level and how is translating. Cheers guys, Darek

this sounds like an old one Darek?? sure ive heard this before, the kick/perc/bass sitting really nice, sounds quite pro actually, just grooves really well and drives

it needs something special in the breakdown, if you get the drop right it could be a big one

the vocal....yeah im not sure its doing enough, i get the feeling that a higher pitched vocal would lift the track to another level

those little vocal snips are a bit out of place to my ears

my 2c

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Originally posted by djnitride Thanks for the feedback... I spent like 1 hour designing the kicks reverb in B2 ... probably the most powerful reverb plugin in existence. Its crazy all of the spacial features you can add to a sound with it and shape it exactly how you have it in your head... guess that's why they call it a "Spacial Processor" Yeah I did notice the fatigue issue somewhat on some of the drone strings more resonant frequencies. I tried to EQ/compress it away but I don't think it worked well enough... just too much resonance at certain frequencies left over. Think I will take those elements of the track back to the drawing board.

one thing ive noticed is that if the source sound isnt up to scratch it doesnt matter how fancy your reverb is

e.g i wouldnt use my Waldorf Q with the filter opened out fully on certain settings as it can get a little harsh and sometimes alias, reverb wont really disguise it

and then on the flipside if you have a really top quality sounding source going into a proper reverb you are on the money

good stuff man, look forward to hearing more from you!

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Originally posted by evo8 one thing ive noticed is that if the source sound isnt up to scratch it doesnt matter how fancy your reverb is e.g i wouldnt use my Waldorf Q with the filter opened out fully on certain settings as it can get a little harsh and sometimes alias, reverb wont really disguise it and then on the flipside if you have a really top quality sounding source going into a proper reverb you are on the money good stuff man, look forward to hearing more from you!

Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig

Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation.



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Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits

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Originally posted by djnitride Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation. EDIT: Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits

yes much more relaxing now, the harshness is gone completely, good job......

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Originally posted by djnitride Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation. EDIT: Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits

Hi

not really familiar with ambient music but gladly offer my opinion!


I like the evolving pad sound, and the intro really captures my attention. cool, spooky atmosphere

not super keen on the "texture" of the reverb sounds a bit distorted/noisy

For me it needs more details/change/evolution to keep interest, also I find the beat too minimal and would like some other percussion

Anyway, all IMO of course keep up the good work

Hi all

This is my new WIP

The idea was to kind of mix up garage/drum and bass/jazzy with a full soulful/jazz style vocal etc etc

Im not too keen on the high hats I think they might be a bit too garage/swing and my tone them down a bit

It will have a full vocal (and prob a sax solo later on) so there is plenty of space left for vox

I will fill in more details once song is in place

I have mixed it roughly

Any thoughts welcome

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Originally posted by chris marsh Hi all This is my new WIP The idea was to kind of mix up garage/drum and bass/jazzy with a full soulful/jazz style vocal etc etc Im not too keen on the high hats I think they might be a bit too garage/swing and my tone them down a bit It will have a full vocal (and prob a sax solo later on) so there is plenty of space left for vox I will fill in more details once song is in place I have mixed it roughly Any thoughts welcome

hi, ill be honest, this isnt doing much for me, something so repetitive as this needs to have something of interest which isnt yet there imo

Cool thanks. maybe the vocal and more instruments would do it?

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Originally posted by chris marsh Cool thanks. maybe the vocal and more instruments would do it?

Yes, it will definitely do (addition of your vocal), but also this organ sound when vocal would come will need to mellow down a bit like decrease attack on it so would give you a really nice and smooth background for (and I could see a female) vocal.

So far so good Chris.

Darek

Feedback welcome.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Feedback welcome.

What would you like to know? - attractiveness, structure, sounds levels or maybe just an idea behind this WIP - just let me/us know?

Darek

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Feedback welcome.

pretty much exactly the same track from you every time, its mad! dont u get bored of the same thing every single time???

Paulino, I do like and appreciate the sound design, but each time you had that "wash" sound come in and it felt like you would change the chord progression of the song to something epic, you just returned the song to how it was before.

You need to bring in some higher pitched leads / pad sounds and do a progression ontop of it. Elements need to evolve and progress, not just repeat over and over in the exact same manner with added elements.

I also felt like while the intro sounded good, it just didn't have enough variation / elements to keep me interested before you did the buildup washes. The percussion plays a big role here in the beginning of the track. You have a good sounding kick, but the rest of the percussion is forgettable IMO.

TLDR: With a simple progression in your songs they would sound so much better.

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