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Originally posted by djnitride Paulino, I do like and appreciate the sound design, but each time you had that "wash" sound come in and it felt like you would change the chord progression of the song to something epic, you just returned the song to how it was before. You need to bring in some higher pitched leads / pad sounds and do a progression ontop of it. Elements need to evolve and progress, not just repeat over and over in the exact same manner with added elements. I also felt like while the intro sounded good, it just didn't have enough variation / elements to keep me interested before you did the buildup washes. The percussion plays a big role here in the beginning of the track. You have a good sounding kick, but the rest of the percussion is forgettable IMO. TLDR: With a simple progression in your songs they would sound so much better.

Thanks Nitride, appreciate it.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Thanks Nitride, appreciate it.

No problem and once again, your sound design is fantastic man. Just work on transitioning your song into a basic chord progression and do subtle variations of your drums and some automation and you will be golden.

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Originally posted by djnitride No problem and once again, your sound design is fantastic man. Just work on transitioning your song into a basic chord progression and do subtle variations of your drums and some automation and you will be golden.

Thanks again man, I'm still struggling with writers block and don't know where to begin on chord progressions, i need to do a lot more in depth research.

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Originally posted by chris marsh Cool thanks. maybe the vocal and more instruments would do it?

My thoughts, nice overall vibe.

Ditch the Lisa Stansfield strangs!
Instead augment the keys with quiet more modern pads and such like.

The 'late night' suitcase keys are nice but need automatic as they are too static. So use the filters etc, bring them in and out to reduce repetition.

Some vocals would be nice, even if quite sparse, maybe with some lush long delays etc

Snare is a bit heavy for this 'early morning' vibe IMO.

You are good at this sort of style, always enjoyable, but I'm hearing loads of this just now which is reminiscent of late 90's / early noughties and fat too much of it is just lifted from then with no real evolution.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Thanks again man, I'm still struggling with writers block and don't know where to begin on chord progressions, i need to do a lot more in depth research.

Are u sure this is not a piss take? Are you one of M4B's Alts?
This is not writers block this is ground hog loop.

Prove me wrong, make a quick totally different track now and post it up.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 So my main reference Hi-FI system went south on my (Rotel) and can quite finish this track without an idea how this sounds on HI-FI speakers, just wondering about bass level and how is translating. Cheers guys, Darek

That repeated 'water plop' type sound (wuuuup) is very repetitive for me and is distracting. I reckon use it sparingly.
I'm not sure about the mix but it sounds decent on my little office speakers.

Vocals are,,,,meh, like ok, nothing special. For example at one point it sounds like 'jib jibber' which is like something a old grandma would say!

Thanks guys ☺ I'm ditching this one I feel like the a side (last one I posted) is quite strong - especially now I've got some (I think) quality vocals for it! This one's not up to to and identify is a bit confused

Also now I'm going to be working with a rlly bloody good singer songwriter for the b side want something better and more musical for her to work with! !

Thanks again guys -the "constructive", honest feedback is the hardest to take, but always the most usefull

this thread is awesome! !!

Oh I like Lisa stansfield strings! !

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Are u sure this is not a piss take? Are you one of M4B's Alts? This is not writers block this is ground hog loop. Prove me wrong, make a quick totally different track now and post it up.

No, I'm going to finish the one that i'm working and that's that.

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Originally posted by chris marsh Thanks guys ☺ I'm ditching this one

Which one are you ditching, the jazzy one -> you shouldn't Chris, remember lots of guys over here have their own taste in the music and they would like to hear a specific things in a specific areas lol - so no!!! keep working on it, I believe this is pretty sweet one and with addition of good vocal this can go a long way -> when is done properly I may be able to hook you up with some people.

Cheer man,

Darek

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Originally posted by chris marsh Oh I like Lisa stansfield strings! !

Agree, she was my top female singer lol - great range and strength in her vocal.

Darek

Welp, posted this WIP a few weeks ago and it has changed quite a bit.
There are some evident pieces missing as I am still working on it but could use some feedback on production.
After viewing that Steve duda video and him talking about Eq'ing, I went with his opinion and made some changes. Not sure if it is elevating the mix or not.
I also took a little different compositional approach. Im wondering if it is screwy on the ears
Any ears with this greatly appreciated.

Beautiful Love by Systematicx1 on Mixcloud

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Welp, posted this WIP a few weeks ago and it has changed quite a bit. There are some evident pieces missing as I am still working on it but could use some feedback on production. After viewing that Steve duda video and him talking about Eq'ing, I went with his opinion and made some changes. Not sure if it is elevating the mix or not. I also took a little different compositional approach. Im wondering if it is screwy on the ears Any ears with this greatly appreciated. Beautiful Love by Systematicx1 on Mixcloud

Sorry man, can't work on this MixCloud lol as is not cooperating with me, every time I try to move player forward or backward I got some strange error massage: "Due to licensing issues in your country it is not possible to seek backwards." - also every time I'm reloading this page this player starts to play your track from the time I stop it right before reload - you have got to love this

Darek

Yep, Thanks Darek. I'll have to re upload due to now Mixcloud is only allowing mixed and not single tracks. ::rolls eyes::

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Yep, Thanks Darek. I'll have to re upload due to now Mixcloud is only allowing mixed and not single tracks. ::rolls eyes::

Yeah, sorry man - but I started to like your work lol

Darek

@djnitride, @evo8, Richard - thanks brothers for your good words (and honest opinion )

Currently this is on 5 revision lol and is going out soon

Darek

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Originally posted by evo8 snip of some more deeper stuff

Evo, that IS some deep shit...dig that vibe. After that drop you left yourself open to the progression of the track which is a good thing. I instantly thought of a phat bassline to it. Sorta housey. But believe it deserves something big in the bass area.
I should mention that the first minute seems muddy to me. Is there a pass on it? Or is that on a single track, or is there no pass at all.
As well, the atmosphere could use a little mixing up,almost seems like its overtaking your rhythm.
Nice vibe dood..want to hear more



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Ok,sorry for the repeat. Mixcloud is now a distant memory to me and those issue resolved.
So...brief recap. New remix...did some things I just never did before along the lines of EQ (I still think I'm failing in that dept.) as well as composition.
The problem I have with this track (as I do with each track I make) is it is sounding better because I have tried following Duda's comment on EQ,which basically is "cutting out sound". This is seemingly more clearer to understand now,however..I am lacking dynamics which I so desire to be able to achieve. Is it better than my last track...yea,but it lacks...conviction...lol
It is almost done but has some noticeable areas needing work or just plain missing.
Any ear lending is and always appreciated.

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Any ear lending is and always appreciated.

Some real nice work around 47 - 56, this is the backbone of the track for me, but it somehow goes awry in terms of drums and is hard to get into !

Just stick with that core part and add some nice drums and go from there.

I've finished this one now and hope its a propaaaa club track.

But how is the mix on the low end, can I get away with the bass vibrating and warbling like this?

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Evo, that IS some deep shit...dig that vibe. After that drop you left yourself open to the progression of the track which is a good thing. I instantly thought of a phat bassline to it. Sorta housey. But believe it deserves something big in the bass area. I should mention that the first minute seems muddy to me. Is there a pass on it? Or is that on a single track, or is there no pass at all. As well, the atmosphere could use a little mixing up,almost seems like its overtaking your rhythm. Nice vibe dood..want to hear more ------------------------------------------------- Ok,sorry for the repeat. Mixcloud is now a distant memory to me and those issue resolved. So...brief recap. New remix...did some things I just never did before along the lines of EQ (I still think I'm failing in that dept.) as well as composition. The problem I have with this track (as I do with each track I make) is it is sounding better because I have tried following Duda's comment on EQ,which basically is "cutting out sound". This is seemingly more clearer to understand now,however..I am lacking dynamics which I so desire to be able to achieve. Is it better than my last track...yea,but it lacks...conviction...lol It is almost done but has some noticeable areas needing work or just plain missing. Any ear lending is and always appreciated.

Main problem is kick has about 0 thump at the moment

edit: everything else pretty well mixed, has that loud "modern trance" sound if you will

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I've finished this one now and hope its a propaaaa club track. But how is the mix on the low end, can I get away with the bass vibrating and warbling like this?

bit too weird for me Richard! however the track is mixed well, quite loud if thats the sound you are going for!

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Originally posted by evo8 snip of some more deeper stuff

Nice ambient sounds again man.
Perhaps you could make a couple for this track here as I think the piano should be faded down here n there and some other sounds come in. I cant make as good sounds as you at the mo!;

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I've finished this one now and hope its a propaaaa club track. But how is the mix on the low end, can I get away with the bass vibrating and warbling like this?

Richard with few modifications/adjustments this could be really cool one to play on radio man, there is few areas which I wish could have a bit more development (club style) but overall this is strong one from you

Darek

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Nice ambient sounds again man. Perhaps you could make a couple for this track here as I think the piano should be faded down here n there and some other sounds come in. I cant make as good sounds as you at the mo!;

But this one deserve some extra attention as have really nice melodic flow mixed with DnB style - this could also be played on radio.

We will stay in contact man - you are getting better and better in commercial area brother

Darek

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