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thanks for checking. yeah moving on from that, already closer to what I want with this one. got to spend quite a bit of time on this last night.

its weird not getting weighed down by a track and just moving on. used to horde ideas back in the day

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Hey All, Been having issues lately with writing. I do alright on a intro and a "base" of a song but when approaching the bridge I just go totally blank. This is one of three tracks that are exactly the situation. The problems start when I just go totally blank and then I start fidgeting with what I already have worked on and I start over thinking and adding elements that I probably shouldn't which affects the production. Any suggestions?

Is this an official/original production or remix? - also after1:54 I expected a lot more drive and dynamics then what you have so far.

Overall very promising WIP with tons of potential


Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Is this EDM ok so far?

Yeah, you have some nice (with potential) chord progression going on but this structure so far is not clicking with me man, feel lost couple of time with your transitions like in 1:04 which you adding those melodic chords.

I think if you restructure this a bit more EDM-ish lol and add some vocal to it then you may have something really interesting Richard

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by Evolve140

Sounds dope, head was nodding. You should try and release it.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 thanks for checking. yeah moving on from that, already closer to what I want with this one. got to spend quite a bit of time on this last night. its weird not getting weighed down by a track and just moving on. used to horde ideas back in the day

glad to hear it, you'll know yourself if a track is worth finishing, if you feel it has something...

the groove in this one is much much better imo

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Originally posted by TranceElevation Honestly that track sounds pretty complete to me elements-wise. When you add the intro/outro you'll end with a piece of around 5 minutes which seems totally appropriate for the genre. You already got the verse based around the vocals and you got the main lead which should constitute the refrain imo. Than it's just a matter of arranging, managing things. I would suggest you to leave it on a side for a month or so and then get back at it with fresh mind and vision. I wouldn't advice working on a project that has bored the shit out of you, cause no matter how much will you got, you could never be creative on such projects unless you take a serious break and allow time to "clear" your mind.

Thanks man,

Yea, this is where I am at already after I took a month off from it..lol

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Is this an official/original production or remix?

Darek yea it is and your spot on with the lackluster drive at the drop. My thoughts exactly. Any suggestions? I mean, I would have thought the sub would take care of that but Im guessing I need some mid...but unsure if I should sustain a mid ranged ....something or go with a rolling mid base. Which neither might be the answer.
I tried doing some chain work but couldnt balance the ducking good enough to make it sound natural.

Stuck

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 Thanks man, Yea, this is where I am at already after I took a month off from it..lol Darek yea it is and your spot on with the lackluster drive at the drop. My thoughts exactly. Any suggestions? I mean, I would have thought the sub would take care of that but Im guessing I need some mid...but unsure if I should sustain a mid ranged ....something or go with a rolling mid base. Which neither might be the answer. I tried doing some chain work but couldnt balance the ducking good enough to make it sound natural. Stuck

Will PM you in a sec.

Edit: done !!!

Darek

first one in a while, going for something dreamy......

sounds good man! digweedesque

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Originally posted by Evolve140 thanks for checking. yeah moving on from that, already closer to what I want with this one. got to spend quite a bit of time on this last night. its weird not getting weighed down by a track and just moving on. used to horde ideas back in the day

I'm usually not into the overly minimal productions personally. The same goes for this one. Although I have to admit the part at the 4min mark is rather enjoyable. Technically it all works and sounds well, so no comments here .

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Originally posted by evo8 first one in a while, going for something dreamy......

The mood set at the beginning grabs my attention straight away . As soon as the kick comes in it just oozes oldschool prog vibes. Curious to see where you will take this.

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Originally posted by evo8 first one in a while, going for something dreamy......

This is something...extraordinary, good work/ I def spin this in a set.

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Originally posted by evo8 first one in a while, going for something dreamy......

Nice listening, easy and yet interesting.

thanks for commments all!

no prob. maybe write a little chord progression for a breakdown? bring in some new instrumentation?\ then and thereafter?

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Originally posted by Evolve140 no prob. maybe write a little chord progression for a breakdown? bring in some new instrumentation?\ then and thereafter?

breakdown is a little long so i might shorten it, conscious of adding too much stuff to the track but does need more impact after the breakdown i think, thanks

still shaping that Dave track, struggle to finish

Amazing mix Raphie, sounds solid as heck. Only 2 mild suggestions would be use a better more expensive sounding pluck in the break and if you want alter the timing of the bass as it's a little predictable but otherwise a good listen.



A NEW APPROACH FROM ME;

Project Mankraft (pretentious prick that I am)

hey guys. wanted to change things up a little bit so I actually attempted a trap track new territory for me so thoughts welcomed.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Amazing mix Raphie, sounds solid as heck. Only 2 mild suggestions would be use a better more expensive sounding pluck in the break and if you want alter the timing of the bass as it's a little predictable but otherwise a good listen. A NEW APPROACH FROM ME; Project Mankraft (pretentious prick that I am)

I'm on my work laptop, sound is not perfect but here goes.

The sounds at the start: quite a discomforting tension buildup (in a good way, it keeps my attention wanting more). As soon as bassline comes in it is nice. Nice rolling bass. After the break I would have expected an anti-climax instead of what is going on now. I would love to hear this peak moment with a deeper kick, the roaring rolling bass which you crafted in the break, and a big ass reverb/tail on that bassline instead of what is going on now which feels like a bit of a dissappointment. I feel this full on melodic stuff could be introduced later on after having such a banging moment.

The mix overal seems a bit harsh on the high end and the kick is rather boxy imo.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 hey guys. wanted to change things up a little bit so I actually attempted a trap track new territory for me so thoughts welcomed.

It is all nice, clean and minimal. I like how you keep it small but after a while I feel like I've heard it all and I start to lose my focus.

I can hear what Matthijs is referring to (and I agree with) - to me the most important and not yet full develop part, which is missing from this production, is this melodic development, seems to me your melody never get to the point of fully develop stage-> I would like to hear some crafty pluck comes with sweet and crafty melodic motif at some point. Also I would like to have a bit more dynamics in this track with (Matthijs mention this already) undercut high/mid-high freq level a bit more.

Cheers man and I got to say that this is to me the most attractive work from you so far

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Amazing mix Raphie, sounds solid as heck. Only 2 mild suggestions would be use a better more expensive sounding pluck in the break and if you want alter the timing of the bass as it's a little predictable but otherwise a good listen. A NEW APPROACH FROM ME; Project Mankraft (pretentious prick that I am)

Darek

On the mix site I think that you hit the sweet spot man, very well control freq in this production. As far as the style and attractiveness of it lol - you probably know by now that this is not what I would normally listen to but I really appreciate quality of your work man

Darek

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Originally posted by Evolve140 hey guys. wanted to change things up a little bit so I actually attempted a trap track new territory for me so thoughts welcomed.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler A NEW APPROACH FROM ME; Project Mankraft (pretentious prick that I am)

The kick and the bass feels a little to shy, those percs steal from the show, to my ears they feel a little to intrusive xD. I was expecting something packed with more energy as a climax. Otherwise sounds like a promising tune. Definitely waiting for the final product ^^

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Originally posted by Evolve140 hey guys. wanted to change things up a little bit so I actually attempted a trap track new territory for me so thoughts welcomed.

I did feedback the other day but this site keeps logging me out, grr.

I think it's a pleasant well mixed track but it's not like Trap for me which tends to be very much cutting edge percs, bass and leads. For me any decent trap has to push the boundary, starting with some weird mangled leed perhaps made with a samples Human voice.

Still a nice track though.

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Originally posted by Constantin The kick and the bass feels a little to shy, those percs steal from the show, to my ears they feel a little to intrusive xD. I was expecting something packed with more energy as a climax. Otherwise sounds like a promising tune. Definitely waiting for the final product ^^

Yeah I deffo take on board yours and other comments on the mix, I will do a dedicated mix session.

As to the drop - Storyteller I think wants it to be more minimal, built around that aggressive break bass. Are you saying you like the drop melodic but with more impact, or are you also thinking to go with a more minimal bass driven initial drop?

Trancelover - appreciate your feedback - when you say melody does not develop enough, can you please pin down what you mean - it's very hard trying to get a handle on someones advice, so the clearer you can make it, the better for me it is! So for example I noticed tracks on a recent A&B set did not get too overly melodic, but stuck with a core repeating plucky phrase. Do you not like this? You prefer lots of interplay and little side melodies yes?

Richard, this the part you should feel in your track, it is totally up to you man, I'm just telling this strictly from my personal perspective only, we all can give you technical pointers but style and melodic aspect of your production has to come from you and only you my friend, at this point I feel that with what you already have that you are not reaching your track climax point yet, it is like you are almost there but are missing this one small element -> closure; define your melody/c theme and work your way around it (incl playing it with different instruments: synth, pluck, piano etc.) - if this make any sense?

Darek

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