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Posted by Psy-T on Oct-08-2004 14:21:

this is the second website of this kind im seeing this month
the first one is www.discobus.org its in russian though, so if you wanna read it, read it via babelfish

funny thing about the russian site, they didnt even bother to modify file/dir names, and all the names still have the group suffixes on them

and btw, im pretty sure that both those sites rely only on the scene, i wouldnt worry about them going around the forums downloading tracks by themselfes, they only have whats available in the scene


Posted by djrenco on Oct-08-2004 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
this is the second website of this kind im seeing this month
the first one is www.discobus.org its in russian though, so if you wanna read it, read it via babelfish

funny thing about the russian site, they didnt even bother to modify file/dir names, and all the names still have the group suffixes on them

and btw, im pretty sure that both those sites rely only on the scene, i wouldnt worry about them going around the forums downloading tracks by themselfes, they only have whats available in the scene


terrible! i found one of george hales and emota

http://0days.ru/release/inforelease.php?rid=10232


Posted by Ajay on Oct-08-2004 14:32:

what dickheads!


Posted by Alan Nimmo on Oct-08-2004 15:04:

ok, there host has been traced and someone i know phoned them and they got confirmation that they indeed are hosting- he.net

mails to - support@he.net, they want to 'get the ball rolling'

a bit late, youd think they would check what was on site before allowing such a potentially huge site with big traffic/bandwidth to be hosted,

anyway - email away to that address apparently, as they are waiting to investigate

alan

www.signalrunners.com


Posted by Jay M on Oct-08-2004 15:40:

Well,..

quote:
Ilya Basalaev
Ulukman Mamytov


These aren't english names, I'd say Russian. So JetGroove would be Russian as well.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-08-2004 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Timothy
So are they selling the music of you guys or not? In the response that Nik got, it says that the songs aren't able to be downloaded since he doesn't have a license.


I don't think they're actually selling the tracks before they get a lisence from the artist/label to do so. However, I'm not agreeing to any kind of lisence they're offering me (and I'm sure Mart agrees with me) since I do not want to be associated with any site that sells me back my own product... not to mention the fact that our tracks were both in their demo form...

Besides, how many labels are actually going to make a deal with them? They've even got the fake Armin "76" album for sale there...


Posted by DJAntSmith on Oct-08-2004 16:09:

Quote from the Terms of use

quote:
All text, graphics, user interfaces, visual interfaces, photographs, trademarks, logos, sounds, music, artwork and computer code (collectively, "Content"), including but not limited to the design, structure, selection, coordination, expression, "look and feel" and arrangement of such Content, contained on the Site is owned, controlled or licensed by or to Jetgroove, and is protected by copyrights and various other intellectual property rights and unfair competition laws.


bit of a lie that isn't it considering Mr M didn't grant anything to Jetgroove?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-08-2004 16:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJAntSmith
Quote from the Terms of use



bit of a lie that isn't it considering Mr M didn't grant anything to Jetgroove?

...nor did anyone of us. They keep contradicting themselves constantly.


Posted by s|Lver on Oct-08-2004 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jay M
They already made the intention of selling it because the price is right next to the tracks! I think that's not allowed as well!


you're right. it isn't allowed

putting a price next to the product is legally considered as "an offer" in contractual terms....the price is the "consideration" that would be paid for the product

if someone clicks on buy, that means he has "accepted" the offer and the pending the fulfillment of the "consideration", the site is will be legally obliged to give the person the product

as long as the offer has been made it shows every intent of selling and you can't stop people from accepting the offer as long as the fulfill the consideration


Posted by Psy-T on Oct-08-2004 17:16:

no serious label would sign with them nor would any self respecting producer,
i believe each one of the tracks on their website has been released in the scene at one point or another.
i also dont believe what they wrote to you in that automatic email response.

why the hell would they invest all the time and effort they did unless the site is fully operational by now?


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Oct-08-2004 17:22:

what a bunch of donkey ass munching knobends


Posted by John on Oct-08-2004 17:39:

this is fucking lame, i hope the site dies soon.


Posted by DRM on Oct-08-2004 18:00:

right for one, its blatant they they are using "the scene" to attain their tracks and not some1 personal off here. Some1 they know or one of them has scene access, and all they are doing is just putting them on there for people to pay for. its unbelievable wrong, illegal and immoral. i emailed them this morning before when mart showed me. told them to take the site offline or else they will end up in court, which they will because pretty much the top 10 labels in the uk have been told about this.

and the extent their stupidness actually extends to puttin up the POW cds that the releases group relesed for their bday mixed by their own members is on their for some ridiculous price, and also ASOT episodes are on there! fucking joke.

whether the guys who run it are russian or now they have an english address for it all and as such will be totally fucked over, especially considering there has been a big blow up in the press here today and yesterday of people being taken to court for downloading from kazza and such shit.

goodbye jetgroove ur going to jail


Posted by Luke Terry on Oct-08-2004 18:23:



i'm gonna write an extensive e-mail later and am going to inform purple-eye entertainment personally, then trading standards and whoever after. keep repeatedly sending e-mails in if they are selling your tracks illegally.


Posted by Bren-F on Oct-08-2004 19:44:

What a bunch of fucking losers - I hope they go down big time

I've just emailed Rich from Solarstone (who contacted me about the 3rd earth remix) to let him know aswell.



Posted by TranceFantasy2k on Oct-08-2004 19:58:

fucking dirtmerchants. I feel bad for all the TA's who are having their tracks ripped off. I hope you guys get justice.


Posted by alanzo on Oct-08-2004 21:24:

THOSE BASTARDS!!!.... THEY'RE NOT SELLING ANY OF MY TRACKS!!


Posted by jonze on Oct-08-2004 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
and the extent their stupidness actually extends to puttin up the POW cds that the releases group relesed for their bday mixed by their own members is on their for some ridiculous price, and also ASOT episodes are on there! fucking joke.


damn if only i had the $10 to get the ASOT episode.

its a shame that assholes like this are taking advantage of all the cool people here that work hard to produce songs. i hope you guys get this resolved and please keep us updated on what happens.

quote:
Do I have to pay?
Yes. Since this site is legal and the artists are compensated, you have to pay a small fee for each download. There are no subscription fees, bank commissions or other hidden costs.


what kind of a question is "do i have to pay?" im going to try this next time i go out.


Posted by Digital Aura on Oct-08-2004 23:00:

Shame / Disagreement Shoot....all they hadda do was ask!

Man....none of mine there. AHHAHA At least they have taste! LOL

I woulda let 'em if they asked! I don't need the money or fame... just exposure! hehe


Posted by DRM on Oct-08-2004 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jonze234



what kind of a question is "do i have to pay?" im going to try this next time i go out.



Posted by Romain on Oct-08-2004 23:33:

Dunno

that's a shame...


Posted by Az on Oct-09-2004 00:44:

there's a load of George Hales stuff on there as well......


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-09-2004 01:35:

Just email the hosting company threatening to sue them and they'll probably take it down within a week or two, especially if they get a whole bunch of complaints. It's usually easier to deal with the host which has no personal stake in whether or not the site remains on the web.


Posted by EssentialParado on Oct-09-2004 02:11:

Yes. The host is responsible for illegal media being hosted. So emailing them will work.

I've sent an immediate removal email of my label's artists work from their site and also have informed the british phonographic industry's legal department. Shouldn't be long now.

However, although this is a sad shame of this site, I don't think they will be prosecuted if they haven't actually 'sold' any tracks. Although they will be forced to take down any mention of any unlicensed material.

-Luke


Posted by BelgianGuru on Oct-09-2004 13:40:

The site is still up here. It was bound to happen, there will always be rats like that on this planet =(


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