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Harris would need to take PA, MI, and WI to win but so far Trump is ahead in all three. Looks like he's probably set to win this. Oh well.

so depressing.

Woke up hopeful to see Harris leading. Instead, yet another reminder that polls mean zilch and America is still racist and misogynistic. This is basically a landslide at this point. Awful.

What the fuck. I really underestimated how entrenched the MAGA mentality is.

When my daughters ask me one day "how did this man become president... twice" I don't know if I'll have a good answer for them.

Hoping for a mediocre 4 years of failed promises and a movement that burns out and eats itself.

Trump wins. Can't wait to make America great again you salty little sh*ts. Lews is teh suck.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so depressing.

Cope harder you 60 year old loser 😆

Knew there'd have to be at least one here. You didn't go to college, did you?

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Originally posted by JEO Knew there'd have to be at least one here. You didn't go to college, did you?

So I could waste 60K to be a brainwashed libtard loser like you? Glad to see Trump got you all triggered though. It's hilarious 😆

All the true patriots are celebrating right now.

Hey Lews, stay in England bro. We know you like to kiss Kier Starmer's rear since you hate freedom of speech. But the real American patriots will do all they can to protect the first amendment.

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Originally posted by Zharen Cope harder you 60 year old loser 😆

Haha that�s great. When this thread was created i totally thought �hang on, isn�t ziptnf that social leper and incel loser who sucked trump�s cock a lot? Good to know i simply conflated Zs. (Sorry ziptnf.)

And, not even 50 yet, cretin.

I must admit, I've got no memory of who Zharen is. When I first saw his posting spree I confused him with Zoso and I was thinking "Well this is out of character, that guy was chill". So was he always like this?

Anyway, pretty disastrous news to wake up to this morning. We'll see how much of Project 2025 ends up coming true. I also have a bad feeling this might be curtains for Ukraine as well.

I suspect when the dust settles the economy will be revealed as the real deciding point in this election. Pretty much the entire Western world has suffered from a cost of living crisis for the past three years and when the economy is bad, the incumbent tends to get kicked out. After the financial crisis, the UK kicked out a leftwing government and the US a right. This time round it's been reversed. I've seen a lot of comments on social media basically saying the increased cost of everything is down to the Democrats, and I think the unengaged swing-voters weren't happy with that.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Haha that�s great. When this thread was created i totally thought �hang on, isn�t ziptnf that social leper and incel loser who sucked trump�s cock a lot? Good to know i simply conflated Zs. (Sorry ziptnf.) And, not even 50 yet, cretin.

Bahaha, it's all good. I try to stay out of political discussions in general. I was way more interested when I first joined this forum, but now I think I'm just jaded. I am disappointed, but I can't say I'm surprised by this outcome. Dems left Biden in the race way too long, and pushed Kamala through without a proper primary. They really need a new strategy for next time. If there's even going to be one. Really dark shit.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Anyway, pretty disastrous news to wake up to this morning. We'll see how much of Project 2025 ends up coming true. I also have a bad feeling this might be curtains for Ukraine as well. I suspect when the dust settles the economy will be revealed as the real deciding point in this election. Pretty much the entire Western world has suffered from a cost of living crisis for the past three years and when the economy is bad, the incumbent tends to get kicked out. After the financial crisis, the UK kicked out a leftwing government and the US a right. This time round it's been reversed. I've seen a lot of comments on social media basically saying the increased cost of everything is down to the Democrats, and I think the unengaged swing-voters weren't happy with that.

Economy and I would add immigration.

Damn it feels good to be MAGA. Jack Smith, you're fired!

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...rategy-00188108

I've just come here from a headline about Germany and France warning Trump not to use military force to occupy Greenland, and I'm possessed by the sinking realisation that we've got four more years of endless moronic news to endure.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I've just come here from a headline about Germany and France warning Trump not to use military force to occupy Greenland, and I'm possessed by the sinking realisation that we've got four more years of endless moronic news to endure.

Bro... imagine living in the US (California).

So we've had some crazy winds the past few days reaching 50mph (i think thats 2,205kmh or something like that) here in Los Angeles. Wild fires have broken and fireteams can't contain them (yet). President Biden came to LA to pledge the federal governments assistance. What that means? Who knows. But the fact he came out here made me feel better. I wonder if this catastrophic incident occurred after Jan 20th, would the orange man offer his assistance?

Listening to Donald Trump speak is like watching your doddering old grandfather, whose sanity has long since passed, ramble about whatever comes into his head no matter how racist or insane it sounds. And we elected this guy as leader of the free world. Again. And part 2 has basically given carte blanche to the corporate shadow president terminally online loser Elon Musk who has infinite money and wants to commodify space. The legislation cabinet is packed to the gills with geriatric seniors that have been in politics since the dawn of time, and the judicial branch was specifically crafted to restore hyperconservative Christian policies from the 50's in order to preserve their uneducated backwoods voting base. Lovely timeline we are in.

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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal Bro... imagine living in the US (California). So we've had some crazy winds the past few days reaching 50mph (i think thats 2,205kmh or something like that) here in Los Angeles. Wild fires have broken and fireteams can't contain them (yet). President Biden came to LA to pledge the federal governments assistance. What that means? Who knows. But the fact he came out here made me feel better. I wonder if this catastrophic incident occurred after Jan 20th, would the orange man offer his assistance?

Hey man hope you're OK so far. We've got friends in the area, most OK, some friends of friends evacuated...it's insane. Looks nothing less than catastrophic for LA, like once in a lifetime level. Crazy.

@ziptnf It's looking pretty dim right? What a weird time to be alive.

We just unsubscribed from the Wall Street Journal, the reporting had been pretty good but the editorial coverage has charged hard right for a while. Even they are souring on Trump and Musk's nonsense though (at least the last time I read it a week ago), which is saying something. This nonsense about Greenland/Panama/Canada/"Gulf of America" seems to energize the MAGA base but is certainly alienating everyone else...even my Trump-supporting family and the conservative subreddit are starting to say "I didn't vote for this."

And Musk, well, seems like the rest of the world is not taking any shit...I like Macron introducing the idea of sanctions for Musk violating election interference laws.

I'm hoping they burn themselves out along with the entire MAGA mentality. If Trump and Musk want Europe to unite against them they seem to be doing a good job from what I understand, but I'd love to hear the take from anyone across the pond.

Speaking of papers and European takes I've been appreciating the Financial Times lately. Feels like a reliable voice of sanity.

It doesn't benefit anyone in Europe to make an enemy out of the US. They're the key member of NATO, they're an important ally in a great many ways and we're stronger in unity than apart. The unfortunate reality is that most European leaders for the next four years will have to tread very delicately with trying to work with Trump whilst simultaneously appeasing his fragile ego and holding their noses about their lack of respect for him and lack of alignment with his isolationist, bullying foreign policy.

At least the early indications regarding Ukraine are that the US will be adopting an anti-Russia stance. What that looks like in practice and how it follows through into military aid for Ukraine remains to be seen, but the noises so far don't suggest Trump will simply abandon Ukraine, which I must admit is slightly surprising.

Musk, on the other hand, is just a clown. He's not an elected politician in the US and I expect European politicians to push back much more strongly against his idiotic commentary on Europe than they would with Trump.

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Originally posted by camshaft Hey man hope you're OK so far. We've got friends in the area, most OK, some friends of friends evacuated...it's insane. Looks nothing less than catastrophic for LA, like once in a lifetime level. Crazy.

we're doing good, thank you for asking!! A little worrying at times but nothing to panic about. The evacuation 'warning' zones were further from us but we could see them creeping towards us. We packed some clothes, other essentials and filled the gas tank up just in case we needed to haul ass out of here. Winds are dying down which will allow for air support now.

We'll have to get along with whomever the US president is. No one wants to destroy a relation because of four years, and Europe is dependant on the US after all. In the end four years is quite a short time for a storm like this be waited out. Then again, a lot is happening already with Trump not even in office yet.

The Canada/Greenland thing is obviously a wild thing to say, but something's bound to happen in the Arctic in the coming decades, and in the end it'll probably need more US presence one way or another. Russia has built up their part of the Arctic, and China has labelled itself as a "near-Arctic state". Despite Trump's crass opening (if you can call it that), I think a stronger Western and European Arctic would be a good thing. Though there probably are better ways to the Arctic for the US than buying Canada and conquering Greenland lol, maybe this will speed up something, no matter how dumb it sounds.

Thanks for the takes. Makes sense to me (I can't say "I get it" because I can't imagine my country having to cooperate with someone like Trump), I'm just sorry y'all have to put up with it. Yeah, that does seem to be his style these days, go for extremes and then negotiate to something actually plausible.

Appreciate hearing your perspectives. Cheers.

I suspect most of the government officials in your country have to do exactly the same: hold their nose, try and translate his crazy suggestions into achievable reality and walk the tightrope of his paper thin ego. Imagine being a senior general in the Pentagon right now and hearing that your boss wants to invade the Panama Canal.

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