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Posted by evo8 on Sep-15-2017 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Richard that bass is gang shit, im jelly. Evo nice mix and I really like that kick, im a bit polarized by your break, im just curious how it would sound with a dry part layered in, but I think its fine too so dont ask me after-all -__-

I put some more work into my last wip, but Its hit a brick wall, im not really feeling satisfied with it, especially after the break not really keen on that synthish sound but I spent too long trying to puzzle some shit in. I fixed some things but introduced new problems. Maybe its worth a reconstruct if I ever get a good lead sound to replace, and it is a bit muddy/full needs more corrective eq but im trying to move on. Its my therapy to dump it in here before doing so.



the break is killer, reminds me of old Sasha/Holden/AirDD, that lead is really fucking nice, would build around that
the bass lead thing - its very strong in the low mids, imo needs a decent cut, would be tempted to roll off some of the mid->high also

the track is there, just need to dig it out


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-15-2017 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Richard that bass is gang shit, im jelly. Evo nice mix and I really like that kick, im a bit polarized by your break, im just curious how it would sound with a dry part layered in, but I think its fine too so dont ask me after-all -__-

I put some more work into my last wip, but Its hit a brick wall, im not really feeling satisfied with it, especially after the break not really keen on that synthish sound but I spent too long trying to puzzle some shit in. I fixed some things but introduced new problems. Maybe its worth a reconstruct if I ever get a good lead sound to replace, and it is a bit muddy/full needs more corrective eq but im trying to move on. Its my therapy to dump it in here before doing so.



I like it. You can do really amazing things with 3 chords only. The gated thing after break sounds to me a bit overchopped or something...


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-16-2017 17:17:

Doing some rework on this one. I have only this so far. Anybody feels anything here?


Posted by MSZ on Sep-16-2017 18:09:

yea I would do something with the beat and percussion, maybe low pass filtering the kick and beefing it up sideways or just scrapping that and adding a breakbeat, feels like its not doing anything or it should have some dubby roll. I would also layer in another octave down in your sub in or beefing that up too.


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-16-2017 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's the Pittsburgh in a track.

Bass and some picky leed duty





this is my fave of your recent tracks youve posted up - sounds legit to me - i like it

solid bass/kick nice arps

sorry dont mean to be rude about your vocals, but id lose them personally - perhaps look into sampling vocals rather than always recording your own all the time?

getting quite a live/spontaneous vibe of your tracks recently. have you considered doing some kind of live set up?


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-16-2017 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
tweaked this one



really nice kick and bass sounds so groovy

feel like the overall mix might be missing some frequencies int he upper mids and the sustained note that comes in after the break i feel its a bit fatiguing on the ear

overall tune might be missing a bit of a hook

drums and groove realy nice. for me its not far from being a quality tune that sounds pro - just needs that bit of an extra push

imo as ever


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-16-2017 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Richard that bass is gang shit, im jelly. Evo nice mix and I really like that kick, im a bit polarized by your break, im just curious how it would sound with a dry part layered in, but I think its fine too so dont ask me after-all -__-

I put some more work into my last wip, but Its hit a brick wall, im not really feeling satisfied with it, especially after the break not really keen on that synthish sound but I spent too long trying to puzzle some shit in. I fixed some things but introduced new problems. Maybe its worth a reconstruct if I ever get a good lead sound to replace, and it is a bit muddy/full needs more corrective eq but im trying to move on. Its my therapy to dump it in here before doing so.




agree the break is killer and my favourite bit of the tune

agree that the tune is a bit muddy something sounds over compressed too perhaps in the lows? something sounds pushed too hard sounds like its almost stuttering as a result

the thing that is not working for me here is the bass and low end. the concept/music is great imo. my ear seems to be a little confused as to whether or not it actually is bass or not as there doesn't seem to be much sub information in there

If i try high passing the tune at around 100 hz it doesn't feel like im losing much, so i think this area of the mix needs to be addressed

imo as ever


Posted by MSZ on Sep-17-2017 07:30:

When I highpass it at 100hz I feel like Im losing very much guess I dont see eye to eye with that point, but I do agree its very muddy and needs seperation eq / less distortion.


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-17-2017 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
yea I would do something with the beat and percussion, maybe low pass filtering the kick and beefing it up sideways or just scrapping that and adding a breakbeat, feels like its not doing anything or it should have some dubby roll. I would also layer in another octave down in your sub in or beefing that up too.


Thanks. I've changed the kick and drums in updated version, and tried to beef the lowend a bit. Also did some filtering on main lead sound, it was annoying.


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-17-2017 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Richard that bass is gang shit, im jelly. Evo nice mix and I really like that kick, im a bit polarized by your break, im just curious how it would sound with a dry part layered in, but I think its fine too so dont ask me after-all -__-

I put some more work into my last wip, but Its hit a brick wall, im not really feeling satisfied with it, especially after the break not really keen on that synthish sound but I spent too long trying to puzzle some shit in. I fixed some things but introduced new problems. Maybe its worth a reconstruct if I ever get a good lead sound to replace, and it is a bit muddy/full needs more corrective eq but im trying to move on. Its my therapy to dump it in here before doing so.



Ha ha caught one of your tracks at last and I'm glad I did, what a rich sound

Just needs a bit of eq and dare I say Id love to hear it big side chained in the drop

Great


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-17-2017 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
tweaked this one




You have a very unique sound

really evocative and expensive

Sounds a little cluttered in the mids or low mids

Us boys need to get some schiyt signed eh


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-17-2017 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
this is my fave of your recent tracks youve posted up - sounds legit to me - i like it

solid bass/kick nice arps

sorry dont mean to be rude about your vocals, but id lose them personally - perhaps look into sampling vocals rather than always recording your own all the time?

getting quite a live/spontaneous vibe of your tracks recently. have you considered doing some kind of live set up?


Thanks, yes I'm kinda doing more analog in'it these days

Yes I think I will maybe do something about the vox

I have a number of tracks need finishing. I find it hard working with vocalists, I live in the sticks and many don't seem to want to record themselves.

I'm a bit of a loner music wise and find it a pain dealing with singers

My aim right now is to get about 3 tracks I'm real happy with and go for signing (very lazy about that too)

Never done live - would love to but would need some mouse hat or something as I'm getting on

Here's a DNB - people say it's my best genre, but I dunno

Friday The 13th game is out and it inspired this

Should I put drums in break 2 somewhere?



Posted by evo8 on Sep-18-2017 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Thanks, yes I'm kinda doing more analog in'it these days

Yes I think I will maybe do something about the vox

I have a number of tracks need finishing. I find it hard working with vocalists, I live in the sticks and many don't seem to want to record themselves.

I'm a bit of a loner music wise and find it a pain dealing with singers

My aim right now is to get about 3 tracks I'm real happy with and go for signing (very lazy about that too)

Never done live - would love to but would need some mouse hat or something as I'm getting on

Here's a DNB - people say it's my best genre, but I dunno

Friday The 13th game is out and it inspired this

Should I put drums in break 2 somewhere?




love the groove, break probably needs more impact before the drop, imo
the bass/lead thing needs to be a bit darker or more aggressive somehow i think, not sure how youd go about that though


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-18-2017 10:58:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
love the groove, break probably needs more impact before the drop, imo
the bass/lead thing needs to be a bit darker or more aggressive somehow i think, not sure how youd go about that though


Yea I've a lot of work to do on the breaks fo sure.

I like your idea on the bass - if I have you right you mean I should add like aggressive chop layers over the bass line to really bring it out - like swirling in and out, not all the same sound all the time though.

I am keen not to make it like all those neuro type tracks that for me become too abstract & nasty sounding - I quickly tire of glichy bass myself as I find it quite contrived and harsh

I will use Serum for that task.

Cheers


Posted by evo8 on Sep-18-2017 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Yea I've a lot of work to do on the breaks fo sure.

I like your idea on the bass - if I have you right you mean I should add like aggressive chop layers over the bass line to really bring it out - like swirling in and out, not all the same sound all the time though.

I am keen not to make it like all those neuro type tracks that for me become too abstract & nasty sounding - I quickly tire of glichy bass myself as I find it quite contrived and harsh

I will use Serum for that task.

Cheers


i just thought it sounded a bit too "nice" for that style of track but then again i dont really listen to dnb so it could be spot on


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-18-2017 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Thanks, yes I'm kinda doing more analog in'it these days

Yes I think I will maybe do something about the vox

I have a number of tracks need finishing. I find it hard working with vocalists, I live in the sticks and many don't seem to want to record themselves.

I'm a bit of a loner music wise and find it a pain dealing with singers

My aim right now is to get about 3 tracks I'm real happy with and go for signing (very lazy about that too)

Never done live - would love to but would need some mouse hat or something as I'm getting on

Here's a DNB - people say it's my best genre, but I dunno

Friday The 13th game is out and it inspired this

Should I put drums in break 2 somewhere?







sounds good. some of the mid bass "edits" stick out of the mix a bit much, like lightly out of time perhaps could do with some reverb to blend them in (maybe a short decay time low dry/wet mix)

good power and low end

i think if you spent time on the details and mix down, did some referecning etc it would be a good dark jump up type tune

agree the break needs work, like i said its the details you need to work on IMO the meat is there

Im trying to do DnB myself now, and its like trance in the sense that IMO its very unforgiving in terms of production values/mix down so everything need to be on point


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-18-2017 19:40:

hi guys

this is the intro to my new track, still need a lot of work and the drop isn't ready to even play to anyone yet

going for a kind of cinematic vibe for the intro. using fm8, izotope spectron and ataptiverb for the pads/cinematic type atmospheres which was very interesting

any thoughts very welcome

thanks


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-18-2017 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
hi guys

this is the intro to my new track, still need a lot of work and the drop isn't ready to even play to anyone yet

going for a kind of cinematic vibe for the intro. using fm8, izotope spectron and ataptiverb for the pads/cinematic type atmospheres which was very interesting

any thoughts very welcome

thanks




Nice sound especially that aggressive sound that comes after the pads

Maybe vary the piano chord a couple of times

I often start with tame sounding drums like this but end up making them more in the face

Interested t0 see what bass you go with, I can imagine one in my head


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-18-2017 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Nice sound especially that aggressive sound that comes after the pads

Maybe vary the piano chord a couple of times

I often start with tame sounding drums like this but end up making them more in the face

Interested t0 see what bass you go with, I can imagine one in my head


cheers ears

good call on the piano. yes ill be mixing from the drop so the drums will defintiley have to be louder/more in your face when i mix it

defo needs a lot of work still...


Posted by evo8 on Sep-18-2017 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
hi guys

this is the intro to my new track, still need a lot of work and the drop isn't ready to even play to anyone yet

going for a kind of cinematic vibe for the intro. using fm8, izotope spectron and ataptiverb for the pads/cinematic type atmospheres which was very interesting

any thoughts very welcome

thanks



cant wait to see where this one goes, bouncin in me chair here

edit: keeps autoplaying, think its a soundcloud setting you can disable


Posted by evo8 on Sep-18-2017 22:19:

messing with this..


Posted by chris marsh on Sep-18-2017 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8


edit: keeps autoplaying, think its a soundcloud setting you can disable



ive tuned it off but seems to keep playing on the quoted instances. try deleting the one in your quote guys and it will stop i think

sorry about that never happend before must be new


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-19-2017 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
messing with this..




Fuckoff amazing mate

slight mud but only slight


Posted by evo8 on Sep-20-2017 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Fuckoff amazing mate

slight mud but only slight


i listened to it the next day and i dunno, good foundation for a techno track so might rework it drop the vocal


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-22-2017 09:07:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
i listened to it the next day and i dunno, good foundation for a techno track so might rework it drop the vocal



I keep meaning to ask, what do you use for kicks - it sounds like your using a hardware machine?

I just got my set-up properly midi'd up meaning I now have 3 analog machines running (not used all 3 in an actual track yet) to include a Kick Lancet on kick duty. I love the dusty analog sound of the kicks from this but when I used it previously I think you said not enough heft, but when I am layering it with sampled kicks, dunno it's somehow mot sounding how I want

So anyway, yeah, what are you using on kick duty? Your kicks always sound so rounded and understated, yet beefy


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