TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Production Studio
-- WIP thread (DJRYAN now allowed to post tracks)
Pages (288): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 [220] 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 »

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler So I'm finishing up this in my drive to get stuff completed Any crits? https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/tech-pro-bak

thanks for your comments m8

sounds good to me, nice mix, nice and loud, solid groove. sounds very "analogue"

kick and bass working nice IMO.

sorry im always saying the same thing, but id lose the vocals they just dont quite fit the vibe imo and sound a bit cheesy in my subjective opinion. i'd look for some vocal samples, maybe from a movie or something, maybe pitch them right down. if you want to keep them id look at pitching them so in key, heavy processing. atm they sound "stuck on" to my ears

not familiar with techno really, but mix seems a little bottom and top heavy you may want to try bring out the mids a bit more, and some more fx stuff happening in the background could be cool

quote:

Originally posted by chris marsh did this a while back but only just mixing it down now, so any thoughs would be welcome, particularity on mix down

This sound so loud and dynamic compared to mine . Very nice Chris, i like it.

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler So I'm finishing up this in my drive to get stuff completed Any crits? https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/tech-pro-bak

Rich, buddy, it's a nice groove at the start, but then at 0:44 you start doodling with that stab imo

It's an idea

quote:

Originally posted by chris marsh did this a while back but only just mixing it down now, so any thoughs would be welcome, particularity on mix down

really great sound you have there, vocal is just sitting perfectly, cool shit!!

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler So I'm finishing up this in my drive to get stuff completed Any crits? https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/tech-pro-bak

its alright mate, just missing something like possibly lacking a bit in the midrange or something im not really sure, I would have another go at mixing this

quote:

Originally posted by gordan100 Rich, buddy, it's a nice groove at the start, but then at 0:44 you start doodling with that stab imo

Yes I think so too - the age old 'bloke noodling in a synth shop' problem, lol

Fuck, production is one of the hardest hobbies in the world eh

My mate takes time out of it to do his easy hobby - Astronomy.

Big bassey kicks.......?????

How big, how bassey?

Quite a common feedback comment is that a kick is not big / deep / bassey enough.


People like Joris Voorn say many tracks sound bad in the club as the kick is over-powering.

I often try and keep my kicks quite tame with this in mind but when I post up a WIP here I get the feedback the kick needs to have more low end, and be generally 'bigger'.

So the question is this; When u guys say make the kick bigger with more bottom end, are u mindful this could swamp the track in a club?

I notice in the car many tracks have too much kick and it sort of renders the bassline a bit undefined and hard to pick out.

Personally, I think it comes down to personal preference.
Check this vid out of Joel and Steve Duda. They address some of these issues. (around the 2:10 mark)

quote:

Originally posted by chris marsh did this a while back but only just mixing it down now, so any thoughs would be welcome, particularity on mix down

Sounds nice! I think the vocal could be a couple db quiter though. Not a fan of the LFO wubs personally, you already had a perfectly nice Garage track going!

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler So I'm finishing up this in my drive to get stuff completed Any crits? https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/tech-pro-bak

Mix sounds too clinical in the highend and the transients up there are a bit harsh. I think you cut a bit too much from the kick's lowend.

New one from me. Dunno why exactly but it gives me a bit of that lovely shitty dutch epic trance feeling

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler Big bassey kicks.......????? How big, how bassey? Quite a common feedback comment is that a kick is not big / deep / bassey enough. People like Joris Voorn say many tracks sound bad in the club as the kick is over-powering. I often try and keep my kicks quite tame with this in mind but when I post up a WIP here I get the feedback the kick needs to have more low end, and be generally 'bigger'. So the question is this; When u guys say make the kick bigger with more bottom end, are u mindful this could swamp the track in a club? I notice in the car many tracks have too much kick and it sort of renders the bassline a bit undefined and hard to pick out.

I would agree with Joris Voorn, a lot of club stuff these days is just a wall of sub
I love when the older tracks are played as the kicks sound great, not too subby but plenty of thump, what i try to do is start with a good sounding sample, roll off the low end and boost around 80hz instead

It's fine to scoop out a bit sub 40hz but a lot of amateur producers (and most professional trance producers LOL) just go waaaay to far until they have a kick with no lowend. Your 'Can U Feel' track is definitely cut too high. The only time I would cut that high is with a really big, meaty, subby distorted bass but yours doesn't even sit that low and is pretty polite. Generally, it's fine to have either the kick or the bass bang in the subs, just not both. And it's fine to have some spillover, a lot of people totally seperate their kick and bass and it just sounds lame and clinical. A lot of older tracks have pretty messy kick/bass mixing and they still sound great in the club.

Keep in mind that any competent mastering engineer is going to cut sub 30 hz pretty heavily anyways. I think the real problem is that a lot of people just make kicks with ridiculously long decay times and a shit ton of reverb and then it'll obviously end up as a mess. Someone who's a mastering engineer listened to the track I posted above and said the kick is fine and it's subby as hell.

A nice solution to roll off the subs that has plenty of character and doesn't sound clinical is U-he Satin (tape emulation). It does wonders do lowend if you set it up right, it naturally rolls off sub 30hz and really makes that ~50hz range bang. It also adds nice harmonic distortion and overtones to bass and pulls everything together with a nice gentle tape compression across the mix.

quote:

Originally posted by Woony New one from me. Dunno why exactly but it gives me a bit of that lovely shitty dutch epic trance feeling

Nice! I don't know about Dutch trance, but the bass sounds right out of a Markus Schulz set circa 2005. I like it.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of those reese basslines. They were also somewhat popular among early 2000s techno producers.

quote:

Originally posted by Woony New one from me. Dunno why exactly but it gives me a bit of that lovely shitty dutch epic trance feeling

I like it. Need some variety or change in sound in some point imo or different arrangement. Sound is nice, bass is awesome. Pads are nice too.

Hows this? Didn't sleep over so i might delete this tomorrow morning Bassline sounds weird.

quote:

Originally posted by gordan100 Hows this? Didn't sleep over so i might delete this tomorrow morning Bassline sounds weird.

bassline sounds really cool - some of the stabs are a bit on the loud/harsh side, definitely potential there

@woony, nice track there

quote:

Originally posted by gordan100 Hows this? Didn't sleep over so i might delete this tomorrow morning Bassline sounds weird.

Mice n moody, like the bass

Just tame those stabs some

DnB nearly done I think

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/every-time

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler DnB nearly done I think https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/every-time

i really like it - the drop could be better, wanted the track to really take off at that point, second one is better, if you had a little vocal to round off the phrase that would be perfect (if that makes sense)

i think you have all the bits there, just a matter of arrangement

also the sub is quite heavy, you could probably lose a bit of that, its just eating up headroom

Useful Evo thx

I cannot embed SC just now ,no idea why not

Here's one of those tech wips I promised to finish, nearly there.

Just need something in the breaks??

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/make-me

quote:

Originally posted by Richard Butler

Thats nice Rich, very nice bass and drums. Melody after break sounds a little off to me.

May be worth continuing:



Recording of walking the dog, put through a vocoder with volume and decay automation. The last part is the plain synth without any vocoding or effects:



No idea what I'll do with it yet but I like the sound.

quote:

Originally posted by Vector A May be worth continuing:

I like it, it's worth continuing imho

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.