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Originally posted by SystematicX1 One of my goals for 2018 is to break out 6 old tracks that were never finished. Lofty goal since a lot of these are two years or older. Pulled this one as I always dug it. Pre mix and still needs some work but it is getting there. Any things that stand out I should pay attention to?

Well, melodic theme is quite sweet man and is on my liking site but at least at this moment this track is lacking energy and driving vibe - if you ask me why or what is missing I would say that at some point you could bring different drums pattern (like at Trance) with supporting energetic bass line

Darek

What is your first impression after this short WIP:



Thank guys,

Darek

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Originally posted by chris marsh with the highs. here is a snapshot of your track https://ibb.co/bwZKGm and the one you posted for reference: https://ibb.co/hNEfNR so yours is a little dull in the highs by comparison

That is indeed how I've mixed it. It's been something I've been experimenting with...on more recent mixes. Noticed on well balanced tracks that, to me, sound great at lower volumes, but sound very harsh around 70-84 spl. So I did a bit of dipping and rolling off on some of the resonance peaks 5khz ->. I wanted a mix that sounds smooth at high volume.

*shrug*

Also, I preferred "Catch You" the best mix-wise from your listed stuff. I understand not judging a wip, but the state one's current ears are in matters ye?

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Originally posted by theterran That is indeed how I've mixed it. It's been something I've been experimenting with...on more recent mixes. Noticed on well balanced tracks that, to me, sound great at lower volumes, but sound very harsh around 70-84 spl. So I did a bit of dipping and rolling off on some of the resonance peaks 5khz ->. I wanted a mix that sounds smooth at high volume. *shrug* Also, I preferred "Catch You" the best mix-wise from your listed stuff. I understand not judging a wip, but the state one's current ears are in matters ye?

no worries dude. at the end of the day these sorts of threads are great because you get other peoples opinions, which of course you are free to take or leave

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Originally posted by chris marsh no worries dude. at the end of the day these sorts of threads are great because you get other peoples opinions, which of course you are free to take or leave

Indeed. Also nice to share thoughts and conceptions on what one's doing in a mix. Might give someone else other ideas, or change how they perceive something for the better.

What I gathered from everyone's feedback reflects my own concerns. My monitors have false low-end extension that makes the low-end harder to work on, and usually weaker.

A majority of people (I don't just take my mixes here ) tend to prefer a louder mix at lower volumes. Picking the correct bass for the range you'll be placing it in is important, and I'll be paying attention more to this in the future.

I still feel I have a long way to go with regards to music writing and production quality. That's why I've liked these forums : Honest, critical feedback. The improvement never stops it seems.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 What is your first impression after this short WIP: Thank guys, Darek

Beefing up melody at 0:56 could be better imo. It sounds too simple and predictable imo. Drums and bass are nice. Overall, you had much better works, sorry :/

I should not judge the mix quality , it seems balanced to me, a bit too loud.

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One of my goals for 2018 is to break out 6 old tracks that were never finished. Lofty goal since a lot of these are two years or older. Pulled this one as I always dug it. Pre mix and still needs some work but it is getting there. Any things that stand out I should pay attention to?

I like the beginning. Melody is nice, a bit cheesy though, sounds are nice. Low end is missing, otherwise mix is clean. Drums are distracting for me in areas with a lot of snare pumping.

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Originally posted by chris marsh this is still rough as fuck and i know the mix is all over the place and needs loads of work but i like where it is going as a work in progress doing this kind of music is challenging for me but definitely a direction i want to go in

This is cool. I would use more that resonating sound at 0:45 and play with it on top of this.

How is this? Is it interesting enough so far or to samey?

I hope that the main synth is not to sharp, i'm not sure yet.

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Originally posted by gordan100 Beefing up melody at 0:56 could be better imo. It sounds too simple and predictable imo. Drums and bass are nice. Overall, you had much better works, sorry :/ I should not judge the mix quality , it seems balanced to me, a bit too loud.

Yeah, I can hear you Gordan - I was simply checking out a new version/style for the same track which I'm working on already (can hear below) - I was after more energetic and dynamic vibe which at this moment sound monotone and uninspiring/boring melodically but trust me it would/will change for better



Darek

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer Musically, I like this one. Its a style I'd listen to. It has a potential to be very lush yet hypnotic in some elements. Mix wise - I don't think the stereo imaging is correct. the low mids sound too wide, so they lack the firmness. The pad - it is very "out there" and sounds like it is a bit drowned in reverb and too wide for it's own good, and it just falls out of focus. Perhaps if it had a mono low-end layer added to it would anchor it more. Not a fan of the delayed bass(not the static one) sound at all but that might just be a matter of taste. I have a feeling that it was supposed to work as a hook, but it just doesn't IMO and frankly it is a boring sound/set of notes. As I said I like the track, it reminds me of some of Hiroshi Watanabe's older work on Kompakt , and he is one of my all time favorite producers, so there is that.

Hey, dude, thanks a lot. I know i'm bad at mixing but very honored to remind anyone on anybody and especially on their favorite producer

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Yeah, I can hear you Gordan - I was simply checking out a new version/style for the same track which I'm working on already (can hear below) - I was after more energetic and dynamic vibe which at this moment sound monotone and uninspiring/boring melodically but trust me it would/will change for better Darek

I'm sure it will!

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Yeah, I can hear you Gordan - I was simply checking out a new version/style for the same track which I'm working on already (can hear below) - I was after more energetic and dynamic vibe which at this moment sound monotone and uninspiring/boring melodically but trust me it would/will change for better Darek

Everything after 2:00 is great. If you can find a way to better lead in to that break / moment, I think song from a musical standpoint will be in really good shape. I like the open saw lead at 2:25, juicy and sounds good on top of the bass, and it seems like a blend between chillstep and trance there for a brief moment, and reminds me a little of deadmau5.

Maybe decentralize the arped pikes/plucks a little bit to give the main lead the central position?

After 2:00, with a bit more in the way of percussion and supporting arrangement, I think it'd be a nice tune. Melodic progression feels like it's missing a little somethin' somethin' to really make it sound unique though.

Best of luck.

cheers for your comments chaps. ive tried loads of ideas on top but as its so minimal most things dont work with the vibe

funnily enough i made fast progress with it initially and was excited about it, but the last few weeks ive been going round in circles while getting very little done

have changed the kick. lets see if i can do something with it

couple of tunes i was going to listen to have been removed so i cant feedback!

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 What is your first impression after this short WIP: Thank guys, Darek

my first impression is sounds decent. i think it needs some kind of musical hook, or maybe some more interesting percussion to add to the foundation. maybe a full vocal?

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Originally posted by gordan100 How is this? Is it interesting enough so far or to samey? I hope that the main synth is not to sharp, i'm not sure yet.

Finally when I have time to digest this WIP I see this message "Oops, we couldn�t find that track."

Next time I will have to be a bit faster man

Darek

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Finally when I have time to digest this WIP I see this message "Oops, we couldn�t find that track." Next time I will have to be a bit faster man Darek

You didn't miss anything, it was boring and badly mixed

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Yeah, I can hear you Gordan - I was simply checking out a new version/style for the same track which I'm working on already (can hear below) - I was after more energetic and dynamic vibe which at this moment sound monotone and uninspiring/boring melodically but trust me it would/will change for better Darek

Its good, obviously the intro has not much to comment on. The sound is pretty glorious, and musically it really picks up with the break buildup and the next section. The arp really picks the track up. Though I feel that the snare takes way too much attention. I can see what you're going for with the snare, but IMO it would be as good if it was at least a bit quieter, I don't think it would lose its function, but it would make the lead and chords more up front and balanced with the snare.

Few hours into this. Does anything in the mix make your ears bleed?

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Originally posted by gordan100 Few hours into this. Does anything in the mix make your ears bleed?

Nothing in the mids-> highs sounds harsh on my setup.

Good sound selection imo. Obviously needs drumkit, but it's a wip so yeah...

I can hear at the 1:00 mark, the plucks pushing the pad down. Either you have it side-chained, or it's your limiter. Maybe a 5-10% gain reduction on the pads might solve this, and keep them from being as overbearing on the mix.

If you haven't already, might make use of some subtle side-chaining from kick-> pad, so the kick has an easier time cutting through. Might opt for a low attack/release on the sidechain compressor, as to not add any pump to the pad.

It's also a good idea to center your bass. You don't have to, but bass frequencies usually carry much less directional content with them, so panning it to one side or another un-evenly distributes the highest energy carrying frequency (uses up more of one channel's headroom) with no real benefit. It also sounds a bit unbalanced in my headphones. (more ok on desktop speakers)

-edit- Listening through a second time, I can hear that it starts off centered and gets panned left. To me it sounds weird. But I guess I can understand what you were goin' for.

Great start imo. Melodic content is pretty neutral around the 1:20 -> 2:20 mark though, and I feel it would benefit from some more progression there.

Startin' to dig your more recent vibes. Gl man.

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Originally posted by theterran Nothing in the mids-> highs sounds harsh on my setup. Good sound selection imo. Obviously needs drumkit, but it's a wip so yeah... I can hear at the 1:00 mark, the plucks pushing the pad down. Either you have it side-chained, or it's your limiter. Maybe a 5-10% gain reduction on the pads might solve this, and keep them from being as overbearing on the mix. If you haven't already, might make use of some subtle side-chaining from kick-> pad, so the kick has an easier time cutting through. Might opt for a low attack/release on the sidechain compressor, as to not add any pump to the pad. It's also a good idea to center your bass. You don't have to, but bass frequencies usually carry much less directional content with them, so panning it to one side or another un-evenly distributes the highest energy carrying frequency (uses up more of one channel's headroom) with no real benefit. It also sounds a bit unbalanced in my headphones. (more ok on desktop speakers) -edit- Listening through a second time, I can hear that it starts off centered and gets panned left. To me it sounds weird. But I guess I can understand what you were goin' for. Great start imo. Melodic content is pretty neutral around the 1:20 -> 2:20 mark though, and I feel it would benefit from some more progression there. Startin' to dig your more recent vibes. Gl man.

Hey, thanks dude! Thanks for analysis and advices, i've noticed the bass, was experimenting with widening filter but i will turn that off probably. Did some sidechaning on pad, i will adjust it more to make some more space for kick. And i agree that it need more subtle progression in 1:20-2:20 mark. Thanks again for listening. Glad you like it!

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Originally posted by gordan100 Few hours into this. Does anything in the mix make your ears bleed?

i like the music sounds really nice and coherent. if you keep on with it and fill it out could be on to a winner

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Originally posted by gordan100 Few hours into this. Does anything in the mix make your ears bleed?

really nice Gordan i hope you are still working on this - i think its needs some drums obviously but i wouldnt overdo it, some running shakers or a running background arp could work too
important not to let it become too crowded overall, good job, love the kick and bass!

Thanks guys, didn't really have any progress with that one yet even though i spend pretty much time on it. It's going to get rest now.

Got this but not thrilled. It's anemic mix compared to first version (500).




I've been working on this too

I guess everybody is dead It's missing some layer or something in the middle part.

Edit.. i've changed the middle part, not sure if have enough ideas for a longer version right now.

Smooth going (pad)synth in the background and don't put too much of reverb on it as you already have heavy layer of it.

Darek

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