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Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-29-2010 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by bARTovsky
Anyone watch Scorsese's Shitty Island??

Honestly, wtf. Why so terrible?


The blaring predictability of it did not even bother me so much as the utter cash-in on mental health issues. It was not a horror, it was not a thriller, it was just an overstylized and misunderstood exposition on reactive psychosis/repression. I expected a great deal more empathy from Scorcese, but the film reeked of somebody who only read about the source material in a book, rather than actually knowing somebody who has legitimately suffered.


Posted by bananas on Mar-29-2010 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I saw A Serious Man a few days ago and really have not stopped thinking about it. Best movie of 2009, easily.

I watched only half of it and never got back to finish it:[ I was kind of disappointed, normally I love works of the Coens, but this one, I dunno, maybe I'll try watching it again


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-29-2010 20:14:

I can see how 99% of people who see it will absolutely despise it. It offers absolutely no resolution. It's perfect that way.


Posted by bananas on Mar-29-2010 20:21:

Oh and plus one on Lynch being fucking awesome. Watched Twin Peaks first time when I was like 6, used to hide under the blankets when Bob would show up. Then watched it again, and again...It's been a almost two years since the last time, so I might just do it again


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-29-2010 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I can see how 99% of people who see it will absolutely despise it. It offers absolutely no resolution. It's perfect that way.


I remember coming out of the theater, there were some mixed reactions. i say 1/3 were not satisfied with the ending, another 1/3 thought the movie was rubbish because the movie didn't really touch up on professor gopnik's situation, and the conclusion with his problems (in school with the student and at home), and the last 1/3 gave an applause. i was a part of that group. the movie was amazing.

btw, my favorite part(s) was when the son(Danny) kept on calling Prof Gopnik, even though he seperated from his wife, about the TV not working, and having to get the antenna fixed.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-29-2010 20:50:

I laughed throughout the entire movie. The way the jew preteens used fucker in every sentence and just smoked pot all the time, the way the jewish professor stuck his ass out when he was writing on the chalk board.

It was brilliantly idiosyncratic and I adored every minute of it. The film sidles the perfect line between comedy and tragedy, exactly in the same way that life itself does. The ending was ambiguous because the uncertainty of God is as well. That's just what they were on about with the uncertainty principle, Schroedinger, etc. If there was something so base as a "message" in it, I felt it was that life is shit, God is probably surd-evil, but you can either be completely serious in the face of it all, or appreciate the humour of futility.


Posted by TranceGiant on Mar-30-2010 03:17:

I also think A Serious Man is ridiculously underrated. The more I think about it, the more it strikes me as my favorite Coen movie ever. I'm not sure, however, how non-Jews would be able to fully appreciate many parts of it, from the Hebrew lessons, to the dentist story to that epic Bar Mizvah scene (which you can only fully relate to if you had gone through the same procedure!). No offense, just a genuine wonderment. Anyway, as has been mentioned, the perfect balance between comedy and drama. In fact, that scene where his brother breaks down in tears at the swimming pool, crying about not letting him play poker (was that it?) really got to me. It was just shockingly real and honest.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-30-2010 03:24:

Their goy neighbours - the father and son - going on the hunting trip, being standoffish, etc. was fucking brilliant, I was in stitches. I am not Jewish, but my best friends and coworkers are - knowing what it's like will definitely help you appreciate the humour.

The brother was so fucking funny. The glimpse of his notebook that could basically predict the future, and the very brief mention that it actually worked, was hilarious.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-30-2010 03:35:

yeah up there for me as fav Coen bros film. my top 5 as of now is:

No Country For Old Men
A Serious Man
Fargo
Burn After Reading
The Hudsucker Proxy


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-30-2010 03:36:

Did you ever see Barton Fink? That one is definitely in my top 5. Though I've not seen The Hudsucker Proxy.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-30-2010 03:43:

i have seen Barton Fink, and i thought it was a good film, but not great. i think during this time, the Coen brothers were trying to find their niche (Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink), and felt it was too experimental. may need to watch it again.

btw, The Hudsucker Proxy is hillarious. it's a nice slapstick comedy against corporate business totem poles.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-30-2010 03:44:

Acquiring it as we speak.


Posted by djhaziel on Mar-30-2010 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Did you ever see Barton Fink? That one is definitely in my top 5. Though I've not seen The Hudsucker Proxy.


barton fink is a sick movie , it put john turturro on my book as a great actor as well


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Mar-30-2010 11:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
If there was something so base as a "message" in it, I felt it was that life is shit, God is probably surd-evil, but you can either be completely serious in the face of it all, or appreciate the humour of futility.


There was so much in this movie. For me, the message was the advice the old rabbi gave to Danny: "Be a good boy and listen to Jefferson Airplane" which I translated as "Don't do anything you would be ashamed of and have somebody to love." It was actually quite powerful in its simplicity and I liked the way they put it.

Larry's problem was his passivity, notice how many times in the film he just shouts hopelessly "But I didn't do anything!". All he wanted to know was why all these bad things are happening to him, but didn't even listen to what everyone told him. He just needed to "accept the mystery" and move on, and perhaps change his perspective on life.

I was a bit worried I wouldn't get the movie as a non-Jew but I ended up loving it.



Recently watched Vinyan and I Come With The Rain, both highly recommended.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Mar-30-2010 14:36:

The Ghost Writer



anyone seen it yet? wanted to get an opinion / some opinions before watching it. I keep on delaying it. looks pretty good.


Posted by The17sss on Mar-30-2010 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
The Ghost Writer



anyone seen it yet? wanted to get an opinion / some opinions before watching it. I keep on delaying it. looks pretty good.



Saw it last week. Pretty good movie... very "Polanski-ish" with his classic style, if that makes any sense. Don't want to give any spoilers about something in particular, so let me know after you see it and I'll tell you something I thought was pretty questionable. But yeah, I'd say it's not a waste of money at all to see.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Mar-31-2010 06:58:

A Serious Man is brilliant. Such an absurd combination of surrealism with realism - it's funny yet serious. I enjoyed the theme of Schr�dinger's cat. Larry Gopnik can teach it, but he's oblivious to the fact that he's living it.

His neighbor was so ridiculous. Scratch that, his entire life was.


Posted by Renzo on Mar-31-2010 07:06:

Speaking about the cat, the best scenes of A Serious Man for me were the scenes with the Asian student and his father. So lulz-worthy:


Larry Gopnik: So, uh, what can I do for you?
Clive Park: Uh, Dr. Gopnik, I believe the results of physics mid-term were unjust.
Larry Gopnik: Uh-huh, how so?
Clive Park: I received an unsatisfactory grade. In fact: F, the failing grade.
Larry Gopnik: Uh, yes. You failed the mid-term. That's accurate.
Clive Park: Yes, but this is not just. I was unaware to be examined on the mathematics.
Larry Gopnik: Well, you can't do physics without mathematics, really, can you?
Clive Park: If I receive failing grade I lose my scholarship, and feel shame. I understand the physics. I understand the dead cat.
Larry Gopnik: You understand the dead cat? But... you... you can't really understand the physics without understanding the math. The math tells how it really works. That's the real thing; the stories I give you in class are just illustrative; they're like, fables, say, to help give you a picture. An imperfect model. I mean - even I don't understand the dead cat. The math is how it really works.
Clive Park: Very difficult... very difficult...
Larry Gopnik: Well, I... I'm sorry, but I... what do you propose?
Clive Park: Passing grade.
Larry Gopnik: No no, I...
Clive Park: Or perhaps I can take the mid-term again. Now I know it covers mathematics.
Larry Gopnik: Well, the other students wouldn't like that, would they, if one student gets to retake the test till he gets a grade he likes?
Clive Park: Secret test.
Larry Gopnik: No, I'm afraid...
Clive Park: Hush-hush.
Larry Gopnik: No, that's just not workable. I'm afraid we'll just have to bite the bullet on this thing, Clive, and...
Clive Park: Very troubling... very troubling...


Clive's Father: Culture clash. Culture clash.
Larry Gopnik: With all respect, Mr. Park, I don't think it's that.
Clive's Father: Yes.
Larry Gopnik: No. It would be a culture clash if it were the custom in your land to bribe people for grades.
Clive's Father: Yes.
Larry Gopnik: So... you're saying it is the custom?
Clive's Father: No, this is a defamation. Grounds for lawsuit.
Larry Gopnik: Let me get this straight: you're threatening to sue me for defaming your son?
Clive's Father: Yes.
Larry Gopnik: But it would...
Mr. Brandt: Is this man bothering you?
Larry Gopnik: Is he bothering me? No. I, uh...
[Larry stares awkwardly at Brandt until he leaves]
Larry Gopnik: See... if it were defamation there would have to be someone I was defaming him to, or I... all right, I... let's keep it simple. I could pretend the money never appeared. That's not defaming anyone.
Clive's Father: Yes. And a passing grade.
Larry Gopnik: Passing grade.
Clive's Father: Yes.
Larry Gopnik: Or... you'll sue me.
Clive's Father: For taking money.
Larry Gopnik: So he *did* leave the money.
Clive's Father: This is defamation!
Larry Gopnik: It doesn't make sense. Either he left the money or he didn't.
Clive's Father: Please. Accept the mystery.
Larry Gopnik: You can't have it both ways!
Clive's Father: Why not?


Posted by Renzo on Apr-01-2010 02:53:

They remade Death At A Funeral? Three years after the original? With Martin Lawrence? Really?

Fuck. Hollywood sucks.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321509/


Posted by bARTovsky on Apr-01-2010 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by couch-potato
A Serious Man is brilliant. Such an absurd combination of surrealism with realism - it's funny yet serious. I enjoyed the theme of Schr�dinger's cat. Larry Gopnik can teach it, but he's oblivious to the fact that he's living it.

His neighbor was so ridiculous. Scratch that, his entire life was.


Loved the movie. Cohen Excellence. After watching it, I had a read of what they had based it on:

Book of Job

Being quite new to that whole side, it really helped add more depth.


Posted by The17sss on Apr-01-2010 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
They remade Death At A Funeral? Three years after the original? With Martin Lawrence? Really?

Fuck. Hollywood sucks.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321509/



lol... now they're remaking "Look Who's Talking". Wasn't a shitty baby talking movie with 2 shitty sequals enough?



Link---> http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/ex...th-horseman.php


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-02-2010 00:33:

Sorry if this has been posted before but this is going to be the greatest film ever made. period.

THE EXPENDABLES (AKA Stallone vs Everyone)

"Jet Li, Sylvester Stallone, Jason Statham, Bruce Willis, Dolph Lundgren, Eric Roberts, Randy Couture, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Terry Crews, Mickey Rourke, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Brittany Murphy, Danny Trejo, Charisma Carpenter and Gary Daniels all star in The Expendables"



Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-02-2010 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
lol... now they're remaking "Look Who's Talking". Wasn't a shitty baby talking movie with 2 shitty sequals enough?



Link---> http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/ex...th-horseman.php



Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-02-2010 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
THE EXPENDABLES (AKA Stallone vs Everyone)... Brittany Murphy


waitasec


Posted by Sushipunk on Apr-02-2010 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
waitasec


It's ok, Will Smith has been contacted already. It'll be fine.


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