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Posted by evo8 on Sep-02-2018 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SynthNinja
This sounds spectacularly beautiful, love the bass drum, percs and pads you got going on, love to know where and how it ends

In this [wip] I finally pulled the plug and subscribed to splice for 8 bucks, I remember Lira back then making a thread on it. All I can say its def a great investment and I think I just hit tip of the ice berg with just samples, its like you can pick the best clips from each sample cd instead spending like 70$ on each onewithout knowing what your gonna get.

Also there are synths and synth presets also that I haven't dabbled in yet. Anyhow I managed to finish the BT prog breaks rework in several hours with my crescendo, yeah you guess no key change yet still, I didn't want to conflict with the cello and violin in the background, so I tried.



Now I'm ready to move on to new single after Dream Wave with a key change this time, so far its coming along nicely, started it last night.



your production quality has improved, no doubt, but your tracks still sound generally the same, maybe that's what you want?

why do you make music? answer that to yourself

to me, you have to go and make something different, something that you wouldn't normally make, do everything a different way, different kick, different drums, different bassline, different groove - basically change it way up

why? because this leads you down a different path, you will hear different things, come up with different ideas -you can always come back to making the stuff you normally make but you may find that you have a different perspective on music

deep dive underwater...come back up with fresh ideas, hope that helps (and wasn't too preachy)


Posted by evo8 on Sep-02-2018 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Dang I cant hear any of you guys tracks on Hearthis, I will try again later.

Here is my latest release on Springtube Liquid, it's a remix of a Stephen Kroos track entitled Phenomenology. This is own mastering, the release will be pro-mastered thank fuk






fucking great man, bopping in my chair, sounds so clean and big, kudos Rich


Posted by evo8 on Sep-02-2018 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Almost Faxing Berlin :/



really nice Gordan - initially I think the pad is a touch too loud, like maybe 2db max, lovely sound though
pads like that take up a lot of room so you need to careful with eq/volume


Posted by evo8 on Sep-02-2018 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Ha! JOEL!!! Are you seeing this?! lol (he does peek in here every so often btw)
Imo this track is an untouchable. Sorry, just my opinion.
The reason I feel that way is because of the simplicity of the original. Changing ANYTHING in the lines of arrangement disrupts the integrity. Again, totally my opinion.
Secondly, the percussion offers no variance and gets stale due to the repetition.
I know it is probably fun to do and I have dabbled in trying to do some remixes of Deadmau5 but just found that it was better left alone..lol
No matter what I did it just sounded "off" and not saying that no one else couldnt do it justice, but I couldnt.
I also think that is why you dont hear many remixes at all from any song Joel does. Sure, there are some...but in comparisson to other producers? Not alot out there.
Sorry Gordan..just my feelings.

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This Track. It is not danceable at all..lol I have been on my New Age trip as of late and came across an old project. This, oddly enough is a remix as well (never heard of a New Age remix before..lol)
This is actually an ode to an old producer by the name of Patrick O'Hearn. Besides his solo material, he used to be in a 80's synth rock band called Missing Persons. Always loved his stuff and always wanted to do my own "reboot" of this track.
At the moment I would say it is about 90% complete. I need to tighten some areas up but other than that it is nearly completed.
I guess I am just looking for over all thoughts. I know it is not your normal track submission here but..changing it up



this is really cool! - just watch your levels as it seems to be distorting at the high energy parts
love it though


Posted by SynthNinja on Sep-02-2018 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
your production quality has improved, no doubt, but your tracks still sound generally the same, maybe that's what you want?

why do you make music? answer that to yourself

to me, you have to go and make something different, something that you wouldn't normally make, do everything a different way, different kick, different drums, different bassline, different groove - basically change it way up

why? because this leads you down a different path, you will hear different things, come up with different ideas -you can always come back to making the stuff you normally make but you may find that you have a different perspective on music

deep dive underwater...come back up with fresh ideas, hope that helps (and wasn't too preachy)


No that helped alot, from what I learned this is all youtube stuff except for the prog breaks that was simple jamming, but prog trance all I know one way to do it Evo. I need to somehow teach myself on different patterns and variation of structure and arrangement imo, you are def right on that subject, thanks for that. Hmm maybe if I can get in touch with Oldschool artist like Starecase or Evolution who help me with pointers or ideas that would be beneficial. My next wip will be different.. ima try my best, cheers for the honest feedback.


Posted by SynthNinja on Sep-02-2018 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1




This is just pure beautiful Systematic although I do agree with Evo8 on the distortion but that can be easily fixed. The pads and melody are just sublime, nicely done.


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-02-2018 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1


Sounds really nice, good work Phil. If i was picky, and i'm not, then i would say that on flute like sound at 0:34 - second and third note could be a little bit different or with different space between them imo. Other than that everything is as i would try to do.


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-02-2018 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1




I particularly like the section from 2.32, this whole piece speaks of the era when synths were being discovered, good work. Yes a bit distorted.


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-02-2018 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Almost Faxing Berlin :/



Your sound is really good now. a nice relaxed track but need a a bit more variation to take me on a journey


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-02-2018 21:04:

I've been asked for an EP but I don't know which of my DnB tracks to work on for this.

Is this one worth finishing, don't say it is unless you really think so!

Thanks for the nice comments on my recent signed remix.

Cheers, my annoying self.


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-02-2018 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I've been asked for an EP but I don't know which of my DnB tracks to work on for this.

Is this one worth finishing, don't say it is unless you really think so!

Thanks for the nice comments on my recent signed remix.

Cheers, my annoying self.



I don't like that break at 1:25. Imo, you should cut from break to 2:04, and loop more part from 2:16 - 2:27 (end of that part is a bit confusing to me). All imo.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-03-2018 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I've been asked for an EP but I don't know which of my DnB tracks to work on for this.

Is this one worth finishing, don't say it is unless you really think so!

Thanks for the nice comments on my recent signed remix.

Cheers, my annoying self.



Thanks all for the comments. Yea, you all detected one area I need to fix and glad you all heard it.

Richard,
I ALWAYS dig your DnB stuff. I really dig that kind of vibe. Im with Gordan, I think that break almost creates a dis jointed tone in the track.
Really like this! Grats on the releases bud, you deserve it!


Posted by evo8 on Sep-03-2018 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I've been asked for an EP but I don't know which of my DnB tracks to work on for this.

Is this one worth finishing, don't say it is unless you really think so!

Thanks for the nice comments on my recent signed remix.

Cheers, my annoying self.



mmm it's ok but I think you could come up with something better


Posted by evo8 on Sep-03-2018 17:27:

more of the track I was working on, still pretty happy with it


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-03-2018 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
more of the track I was working on, still pretty happy with it



I always like the way your'e unapologetically electronic. This is decent mate.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-04-2018 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
more of the track I was working on, still pretty happy with it


I try to be very atmospheric and then I listen to Evo's music and then I throw my computer out the window.
Solid vibe man


Posted by SynthNinja on Sep-04-2018 17:06:

I just unplugged all my aftermarket Vovox power cords and realized it was interfering with my recordings, fucking snake oil bs right there, so I did a complete mix down revision with the stock cords on my symphony, monitors and iMac pro.



My advice dont give into the snake oil.


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-04-2018 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by SynthNinja
I just unplugged all my aftermarket Vovox power cords and realized it was interfering with my recordings, fucking snake oil bs right there, so I did a complete mix down revision with the stock cords on my symphony, monitors and iMac pro.



My advice dont give into the snake oil.


Sounds nicely atmospheric in the background. Are you done with this or still working on it?


Sorry to bombard but I've been asked by a label to do an EP

Is this track ok to include do you think guys?


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-04-2018 18:54:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
more of the track I was working on, still pretty happy with it



That's nice again. I'm waiting for a bad mix from you, but it never happens


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-04-2018 18:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sounds nicely atmospheric in the background. Are you done with this or still working on it?


Sorry to bombard but I've been asked by a label to do an EP

Is this track ok to include do you think guys?



It's nothing special for me tbh.

These two of your recent tracks are great for me, but i don't know if you are restricted to some genre or not




Posted by evo8 on Sep-04-2018 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sounds nicely atmospheric in the background. Are you done with this or still working on it?


Sorry to bombard but I've been asked by a label to do an EP

Is this track ok to include do you think guys?



yeah I like that

p.s. thanks for comments all, gonna try and work on a new one


Posted by SynthNinja on Sep-04-2018 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sounds nicely atmospheric in the background. Are you done with this or still working on it?




Still working on it and I want this track to be my first key change Richard, I know you offered help before but I wasn't at the level of understanding the basics but now I'm ready.

I will get to your track in a bit, I',m in my living room playing PS4.


Posted by SynthNinja on Sep-04-2018 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler

Sorry to bombard but I've been asked by a label to do an EP

Is this track ok to include do you think guys?



k im back, wow what beautiful wip, you can bring out emotion and feel better than I can, I love the strings btw, nicely done man.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-04-2018 21:25:

Some Cheese...


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-05-2018 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Some Cheese...



I've no probs with a bit o cheese, this is fun but it needs quite a bit of work, there's a lot of clashing freqs and the bass seems dissonant with the keys

listen with fresh ears in a couple of days


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