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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On

jenny in that first pic from niagra falls you look sorta like this girl i am hopelessly in love with
and i'm drunk
also it makes me sad

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights jenny in that first pic from niagra falls you look sorta like this girl i am hopelessly in love with and i'm drunk also it makes me sad

Daze, when are you NOT drunk?

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights jenny in that first pic from niagra falls you look sorta like this girl i am hopelessly in love with and i'm drunk also it makes me sad

Gooood goooooooood. Your anguish sustains me.

*rubs hands together, menacingly*

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Originally posted by Miss Pie

Something tells me you where not alone in this trip....

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Originally posted by Lira I don't know. Sure, no one can be (or have) fun 24-7. But if you take music too seriously, you may end up thinking that music matters or that it is somehow important. I'm afraid that's the most effective way to stifle creativity.

Music is as important to me as things like friendship or laughter. I can't begin to list all the things in my life that have been turned from mind-numbingly intolerable to enjoyable with the addition of music. Whether it's keeping fit or commuting to work or cleaning up the house. There's the endless list of people I've met, good times I've had and unforgettable memories that all happened because of music. And there are the times I've felt unimaginably shitty and it's kept me borderline sane.

True, being po-faced and actively regarding your music as "important" is just as bad as thinking of it as "fun", with the opposite effect. I'm not saying that thinking that music is essential to people's lives while making a track is going to guarantee that that track ends up being important to someone.

But it's like a comedian laughing at his own jokes - it's rarely as effective as when he keeps a straight face. It's why Arnie's stone-faced non-acting enlivened many a shitty '80s action movie. I remember reading a Chekhov quote advising writers to render their work in a tone that is opposite the intended effect. If you're being serious, render it in an offhand way. If you're being light, play it straight.

Music is important to life, that is true... but I'd still try not to overemphasise its importance because it's just escapism. A play to help us drift away from our own lives every now and then. As an English philosopher once said, "I thought that music mattered. But does it? Bollocks! Not compared to how people matter"

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On

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Originally posted by Lira As an English philosopher once said, "I thought that music mattered. But does it? Bollocks! Not compared to how people matter"

See, this is why I dislike philosophy. He said that after getting laid for the first time in his thirties. And he's being remembered for that crap.

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Originally posted by Lira Music is important to life, that is true... but I'd still try not to overemphasise its importance because it's just escapism. A play to help us drift away from our own lives every now and then. As an English philosopher once said, "I thought that music mattered. But does it? Bollocks! Not compared to how people matter"

Are you listening to anything I'm saying? Music might be escapism when you stop everything else in your life and just sit there listening to it, like you might when playing a videogame or reading a book. But what makes music quite unique amongst the artforms is it can permeat everyday life. I don't think listening to music while working is "escapism", I don't think listening to music while travelling is "escapism".

I also find it daft that you'd treat music and life as somehow separate realms, that you escape from one into the other. For someone who claims to read a lot of philosophy, that seems a very simplistic view.

holy shit, if there ever was a time that this thread needed my pics-
it is now.

I have that same bikini as in the second pic. Not that body though, lol.

I have that body. Oh, I have that body.

A picture in your mind every time you whack off doesn't count! Fag!

I don't need pictures; I have freezer space!

Hurrhurrrrrr

You're right. I'm running out. Hey, want some chili?

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Originally posted by Miss Pie I have that same bikini as in the second pic. Not that body though, lol.

I was thinking this was a nice bikini, I like that ring thingy

Yeah. It was expensive. I bought two tops and two bottoms...came to nearly 300 dollars, lol.

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Originally posted by Miss Pie I have that same bikini as in the second pic.

You should post a pic!

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Originally posted by VAR You should post a pic!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Are you listening to anything I'm saying? Music might be escapism when you stop everything else in your life and just sit there listening to it, like you might when playing a videogame or reading a book. But what makes music quite unique amongst the artforms is it can permeat everyday life. I don't think listening to music while working is "escapism", I don't think listening to music while travelling is "escapism".

Of course I'm reading what you're saying, I just don't happen to agree with you for the reasons I gave you.

Nefardec could easily chime in and say that architecture is an artform that permeates everyday life just as easily - you're in a building right now, aren't you? Odds are, even if you're outside, all you have to do is look around to spot a building.

As for the "escapism", if listening to music while you work isn't a way of occupying your auditory system with something different from the usual input you have from the world around you, then you're welcome to say why it isn't escapism in this one case (rather than just claim it isn't escapism because it matters to the listener).

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I also find it daft that you'd treat music and life as somehow separate realms, that you escape from one into the other. For someone who claims to read a lot of philosophy, that seems a very simplistic view.

Actually, the reason why I'm espousing such a deflationary view of music is because I don't believe there's a single set of rules all musicians (should) conform to - even regarding their attitude... and I've never had a reason to not be a sceptic. For that matter, I find it hard to keep a straight face and say there's anything as "music" rather than "musics". It's quite obvious to me that whatever it is that the purpose of music according Tom Jobim, J.S. Bach and Tony de Vit had in mind were so utterly disparate that to claim anything like "music should be X" is doomed to failure. That's why I tried to defend a position antithetical to yours. Being Brazilian, there's nothing more fitting to my worldview than the idea that the most important aspect of music is its playfulness.

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Originally posted by stren

yes!

Finally cooking a real meal on my new stove.

2 cans diced tomatos
2 cans tomato sauce
1 lb lamb, browned
1 lb rigatoni noodles cooked al dente (or whatever)
1/2 cup ricotta cheese (mixed in with sauce)
3/4 cup grated parmesean cheese (spread on top before baking)
1/4 cup grated romano cheese (spread on top before baking)
2 tbls greek seasoning (cooked with meat)
2 tbls oregano (added after meat drained)

bake for 15 mins on 350!

ps, big fan of the flat/glass stopped stoves (i.e. no burner rings, coils)

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