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These amazing shadows was a very intriguing documentary about the american film registry. It might not sound very exciting but I was hooked the whole way through! If anyone here considers themselves a film buff, watch that movie. NOW!

Gonna watch Hot Coffee tonight.


ps: Immortals was terrible don't watch it.

Piranha 3D was by far my favorite 3D movie ever and I just found out they're making a sequel!! Sooooo psyched!!

Kev put this up of FB and it looks excellent. Can't wait.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Kev put this up of FB and it looks excellent. Can't wait.

dvdscreener of that has been out for quite a while.. if you really can't wait. dvd audio and video, a few "for your consideration"-banners but nothing too intrusive.

Wow thanks man

^yeah-- good film too I like good ol' woody.

honestly - i hated rampart. yes, the acting was good - woody harrelson was good, but he had to be as the movie was little more than a character study. unfortunately the movie never really went anywhere, never picked up a whole lot of momentum, and eventually seemed to drag on to a worthless conclusion.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights unfortunately the movie never really went anywhere, never picked up a whole lot of momentum, and eventually seemed to drag on to a worthless conclusion.

It definitely wasn't the best movie ever, but I actually liked that about rampart, and thought it suited the film overall. It was definitely a character film, and I thought it was fairly appropriate to his character, town and general situation that he went through hell only to essentially end up where he started. A sense of futility seemed to really be central throughout the film, so I guess having a kind of anti-climactic ending is necessary... Of course I may be making an excuse for bad filmmaking, but I didn't think the eventual ending was innapropriate...

Anyway, definitely not best film of the year or anything, but I liked the character and acting enough to recomend it

edit: I do tend to really like character-based films/tv shows too, so if you don't like that then Rampart definitely won't be interesting, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Piranha 3D was by far my favorite 3D movie ever and I just found out they're making a sequel!! Sooooo psyched!!

Bring me my legs. Bahahahahahahahahaha

Just finished watching Interview with the Assassin. Great mockumentary if you're into that sort of thing. Its about the JFK Assassination and the 2nd gunmen who after all these years seeks out a reporter to tell his story. Its quite convincing and worth the watch.

If anyone wants a simple but emotionally satisfying movie, look no further! Keith (2008)

My sister who is big on movies recommended it to me. I told her hell no at first because the story line on IMDB looked garbage. Not only that but the movie lacks a single professional review on rotten tomatoes.

Despite all that, the movie itself is actually really good. Very surprised at the fact that there isn't any reviews on rotten tomatoes.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht If anyone wants a simple but emotionally satisfying movie, look no further! Keith (2008) My sister who is big on movies recommended it to me. I told her hell no at first because the story line on IMDB looked garbage. Not only that but the movie lacks a single professional review on rotten tomatoes. Despite all that, the movie itself is actually really good. Very surprised at the fact that there isn't any reviews on rotten tomatoes.

I watched that last week, it WAS pretty good. I didn't expect much from a B-rated Justin Bieber as the lead, but I was pleasantly surprised.

too big to fail

I actively dislike fighting, but Warrior is pretty epic. Cliched as all hell, but manages to be awesome nonetheless imo

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Originally posted by EgosXII I actively dislike fighting, but Warrior is pretty epic. Cliched as all hell, but manages to be awesome nonetheless imo

lol i literally just finished watching this ~20 min ago. i avoided it for so long since i, too, actively dislike fighting and especially fighting movies (although i realllly loved david mamet's redbelt for some reason). warrior was an enjoyable movie - not one that i'd watch again, but it kept me interested.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights lol i literally just finished watching this ~20 min ago. i avoided it for so long since i, too, actively dislike fighting and especially fighting movies (although i realllly loved david mamet's redbelt for some reason). warrior was an enjoyable movie - not one that i'd watch again, but it kept me interested.

Yeah, nothing about it was interesting to me, but it really worked! Might have been low expectations boosting it up a bit, but either way I really liked it haha

Warrior is massively overrated (see: people on imdb hailing it as the best movie of last year, or even of all time). It succeeds in increasing testosterone levels and eliciting emotions, and that's fine, but other than that it isn't really interesting in any way.

Actually, I found the film to be quite problematic on an ideological level - the whole premise about a guy who can't pay his mortgage anymore and decides to win money by entering a fighting tournament sounds interesting enough, but then you see that the whole Sparta thing is financed by some hedge fund guy. The same financial system which gives you a loan you can't pay then offers you to let yourself get beat up and then pay it back. And of course, everything's fine at the end so the unsustainable American dream can continue. It sounds almost like a science-fiction story, like Gamer - except here you don't have a comic book villain like Kastle, just some fairly unimportant bankers. Another important difference is, Warrior doesn't realize that this situation (and its "positive" outcome) is not ok.

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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo! Warrior is massively overrated (see: people on imdb hailing it as the best movie of last year, or even of all time). It succeeds in increasing testosterone levels and eliciting emotions, and that's fine, but other than that it isn't really interesting in any way. Actually, I found the film to be quite problematic on an ideological level - the whole premise about a guy who can't pay his mortgage anymore and decides to win money by entering a fighting tournament sounds interesting enough, but then you see that the whole Sparta thing is financed by some hedge fund guy. The same financial system which gives you a loan you can't pay then offers you to let yourself get beat up and then pay it back. And of course, everything's fine at the end so the unsustainable American dream can continue. It sounds almost like a science-fiction story, like Gamer - except here you don't have a comic book villain like Kastle, just some fairly unimportant bankers. Another important difference is, Warrior doesn't realize that this situation (and its "positive" outcome) is not ok.

Agree; but doesn't make it any less enjoyable. It is a mindless action film, and I enjoyed it in that context. I can't think of one hollywood action film which has any moral or artistic value, and this sits very well in that vein. I think it did better than other hollywood action films in drawing me in and, as you said, eliciting my emotions.

I don't think its a great film in general, but it definitely did exactly what it was meant to do extremely well; hence my endorsement of the movie. If anyone were to go into it expecting anything good (in a broader scheme) they would have to be pretty thick...

You always rage on about films "intentions": This film, more than any I've seen you defend met and exceeded the intentions. I don't think it was ever aiming to be anything deep or intelligent; it was aiming to draw emotions and 'increase testosterone' levels, and I think it nailed that perfectly

I wouldn't recomend it on a list of best films (even of the year), but would certainly recomend it on a list of mindless hollywood action films pretty highly!

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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo! Warrior is massively overrated (see: people on imdb hailing it as the best movie of last year, or even of all time). It succeeds in increasing testosterone levels and eliciting emotions, and that's fine, but other than that it isn't really interesting in any way. Actually, I found the film to be quite problematic on an ideological level - the whole premise about a guy who can't pay his mortgage anymore and decides to win money by entering a fighting tournament sounds interesting enough, but then you see that the whole Sparta thing is financed by some hedge fund guy. The same financial system which gives you a loan you can't pay then offers you to let yourself get beat up and then pay it back. And of course, everything's fine at the end so the unsustainable American dream can continue. It sounds almost like a science-fiction story, like Gamer - except here you don't have a comic book villain like Kastle, just some fairly unimportant bankers. Another important difference is, Warrior doesn't realize that this situation (and its "positive" outcome) is not ok.

I agree, and there were a few small things I didn't really like - the idea that the one brother, who had deserted the marines (yet was still lauded as a war hero), was going to be taken into custody by the government after the fight so a few marines showed up to guard him in his locker room or something. They showed them for 30 seconds and to make it seem as though they were making sure he didn't flee but then the next time or 2 that you see him in his locker room they are no longer there. In fact, there's no mention of that 35 second subplot ever again. There were quite a few ideas like that (major ideas) that presented themselves and then failed to play out on any substantial level.

I also thought the imdb praise to be kinda odd (I rated it a 6) but I would recommend it to a friend. Especially if that friend were in a fraternity. rofl.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights I agree, and there were a few small things I didn't really like - the idea that the one brother, who had deserted the marines (yet was still lauded as a war hero), was going to be taken into custody by the government after the fight so a few marines showed up to guard him in his locker room or something. They showed them for 30 seconds and to make it seem as though they were making sure he didn't flee but then the next time or 2 that you see him in his locker room they are no longer there. In fact, there's no mention of that 35 second subplot ever again. There were quite a few ideas like that (major ideas) that presented themselves and then failed to play out on any substantial level. I also thought the imdb praise to be kinda odd (I rated it a 6) but I would recommend it to a friend. Especially if that friend were in a fraternity. rofl.

the whole plot was terrible; that bit especially hahaha--- How fucking retarded is half the stadium being filled with marines all of a sudden when they find out, less than a day before, that one marine is in the competition...

The acting overall was pretty good though: Nick Nolte was pretty good I thought...

hahaha
"we've been waiting for this event for 12 weeks now, nonstop tv coverage on espn, etc. Thank god people found out the night before that the one guy is a war hero--we finally managed to fill that entire empty quadrant of the arena because of him !!!"

nolte was good, i agree. as for the two brothers - i think the older one was pretty good in the role. the younger brother played it in such a one-dimensional way.

another funny point - the "oh shit is he addicted to painkillers/steroids/antidepressants???" subplot that existed for all of 10 seconds.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights hahaha "we've been waiting for this event for 12 weeks now, nonstop tv coverage on espn, etc. Thank god people found out the night before that the one guy is a war hero--we finally managed to fill that entire empty quadrant of the arena because of him !!!" nolte was good, i agree. as for the two brothers - i think the older one was pretty good in the role. the younger brother played it in such a one-dimensional way. another funny point - the "oh shit is he addicted to painkillers/steroids/antidepressants???" subplot that existed for all of 10 seconds.

Hahaha exactly! organisers behind the scenes: "wow, some random guy in the military said this fighter is a war-hero! Lets take back half the stadium's tickets and re-sell them ONLY to marines! Also, the remaining half of the stadium (who must nearly all be women) must wear camo tank-tops, or else!"

god that drugs one was hilarious you're right. The dad just goes "gimme them pills, omg you got so many, I'm taking them", then that's solved

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Originally posted by EgosXII I can't think of one hollywood action film which has any moral or artistic value

Really? I can think of plenty (Bourne trilogy comes to mind but there's a lot more).

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You always rage on about films "intentions": This film, more than any I've seen you defend met and exceeded the intentions. I don't think it was ever aiming to be anything deep or intelligent; it was aiming to draw emotions and 'increase testosterone' levels, and I think it nailed that perfectly

You got it mixed up again - I'm talking about what's actually in the film (the text), not what it was supposed to say. Ironically, you're the one preoccupied with "what the film was aiming to be" as if there was some unquestionable artistic intention, even though you don't directly personalize it.

It seems to me that instead of actually trying to interpret the film, you rely on prejudices and popular half-truths like "Hollywood films have no meaning ever". Look, no film exists in a vacuum. Even if the artist says "I'm going to do something utterly mindless" there will still be meaning and subtext - partly because he doesn't have full control of his subconscious so a lot of "meaning" is completely accidental, but that doesn't invalidate its existence.

Fighting dramas are often also social dramas so obviously I'm going to be interested in how it deals with this subtext. The problem I have here is that Warrior uses the impending foreclosure to motivate the character's decision to go fighting again and then it is completely marginalized as soon as the family problems are introduced. At the end, every one is carried away by the intense fights so they forget there was that trouble with the mortgage. It implies that everything's fine, it stopped being important, and we shouldn't care about it either. It also isn't good storytelling, which is art in and of itself.

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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo! Really? I can think of plenty (Bourne trilogy comes to mind but there's a lot more). You got it mixed up again - I'm talking about what's actually in the film (the text), not what it was supposed to say. Ironically, you're the one preoccupied with "what the film was aiming to be" as if there was some unquestionable artistic intention, even though you don't directly personalize it. It seems to me that instead of actually trying to interpret the film, you rely on prejudices and popular half-truths like "Hollywood films have no meaning ever". Look, no film exists in a vacuum. Even if the artist says "I'm going to do something utterly mindless" there will still be meaning and subtext - partly because he doesn't have full control of his subconscious so a lot of "meaning" is completely accidental, but that doesn't invalidate its existence. Fighting dramas are often also social dramas so obviously I'm going to be interested in how it deals with this subtext. The problem I have here is that Warrior uses the impending foreclosure to motivate the character's decision to go fighting again and then it is completely marginalized as soon as the family problems are introduced. At the end, every one is carried away by the intense fights so they forget there was that trouble with the mortgage. It implies that everything's fine, it stopped being important, and we shouldn't care about it either. It also isn't good storytelling, which is art in and of itself.

So does the creator, or the viewer create meaning in a film?

Just got finished watching Butterfly Effect 3. Kind of a crazy flick but if you've seen the first two you've got to see this one. Of course both the second and third will never be as good as the first, but this one fits right in. Check it out!!

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