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Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-01-2014 20:04:

quote:
Originally posted by kosmotika
Remix of Infernal - Sorti De L'enfer I'm working on...I'm just about done with it, but here's a clip anyways. Oldschool pizzicato type stuff.


Hey Kos...like that alot! Nice pizzacato =O) For sure has that old school feel, not sure if I like that ride though.


Posted by Evolve140 on Sep-02-2014 19:03:



aciddddd




update: https://soundcloud.com/jesse-cole-musik/2acid




Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-02-2014 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by kosmotika
Remix of Infernal - Sorti De L'enfer I'm working on...I'm just about done with it, but here's a clip anyways. Oldschool pizzicato type stuff.


ooo very niceeee, liking this alot. There's nothing wrong i can say about it.


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-03-2014 06:33:

some updates to the track layerd the pad for bit more texture added some sweeps etc

some of the fx needs a tweak and i need to figure out how i want the intro lol




let me know if i destroyed it


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-06-2014 17:46:




trying to get better at arrangement and transitions....


Posted by Evolve140 on Sep-06-2014 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield



trying to get better at arrangement and transitions....


when the bass comes in it leaves me feeling pretty unfulfilled. The track is really loopy so it doesn't sound very modern to me.

but i can tell it's an honest effort, so keep moving forward.


Posted by Evolve140 on Sep-06-2014 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by kosmotika
Remix of Infernal - Sorti De L'enfer I'm working on...I'm just about done with it, but here's a clip anyways. Oldschool pizzicato type stuff.


no offense but im not sure the point of producing such a dated sound and style..? you have to consider whether or not a DJ would play this in a club


Posted by Evolve140 on Sep-06-2014 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by phroze
Hey there! LONG LONG time lurker here. Finally decided to sign up and join the community!

Been producing on and off for several years but decided to take it a little more serious this past year. Here's a track I'm currently working on. Has a oldskool trance feel to it but the BPM is slower to fit with today's music. Composition is no where near finished. If anyone could provide honest feedback on the mix and overall idea of the track, that would be awesome. (Be as harsh as you want :whip



the only real merit this track has is a tool for moving forward, keep working at it.

first off the chords are bad. holding that minor chord with no real cadence or release makes it unmusical at best.

also, the kick/off beat bass is really really dated sounding, and gets boring fast, drums are extremely basic. you need something to carry the track, whether it be rhythmic or some kind of melodic motif.

just keep at it, off to a good start if you're very new to production. the good news is there aren't any huge holes in the mix, but at the same time the mix itself is also playing it very safe, which is a good way to keep from having mix problems, but also doesn't allow much room for creativity.


Posted by evo8 on Sep-07-2014 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield



trying to get better at arrangement and transitions....


musically wise its not bad, some nice ideas

production is letting it down a bit but that will come with time. The kick/bass area sounds a bit wooly - not much definition. Try not to let one crowd out the other


Posted by evo8 on Sep-07-2014 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
the only real merit this track has is a tool for moving forward, keep working at it.

first off the chords are bad. holding that minor chord with no real cadence or release makes it unmusical at best.

also, the kick/off beat bass is really really dated sounding, and gets boring fast, drums are extremely basic. you need something to carry the track, whether it be rhythmic or some kind of melodic motif.

just keep at it, off to a good start if you're very new to production. the good news is there aren't any huge holes in the mix, but at the same time the mix itself is also playing it very safe, which is a good way to keep from having mix problems, but also doesn't allow much room for creativity.


agree, also too much sub going on - keep at it!


Posted by evo8 on Sep-07-2014 17:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140


aciddddd




update: https://soundcloud.com/jesse-cole-musik/2acid





its ok. not sure about the squelchy bass stab, think it might sound better with the filter closed more


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-07-2014 18:12:

im more using it to learn transitions better its just thrown togeather i keep makin stuff get half way and then i dont like it and start again lol


Posted by Domesty on Sep-07-2014 18:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield



trying to get better at arrangement and transitions....




As Evolve said, the kick/bass combo doesnt stand out from each other that well. Kick sounds really weak against that kind of sub bass which just pounds and isnt well binded. At the end, where you just rose the octave on your bass sounds pretty weird. The pads could be also tighter and the high frequencies are little out of place.

Composition vise it does better.

Your other track sounds really clean. I kinda like it. Sounds lil bit empty and relays much on the lead.




Any problems with mix? I think I have pretty cool lead synth idea for this track.


Posted by evo8 on Sep-07-2014 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesty
As Evolve said, the kick/bass combo doesnt stand out from each other that well. Kick sounds really weak against that kind of sub bass which just pounds and isnt well binded. At the end, where you just rose the octave on your bass sounds pretty weird. The pads could be also tighter and the high frequencies are little out of place.

Composition vise it does better.

Your other track sounds really clean. I kinda like it. Sounds lil bit empty and relays much on the lead.




Any problems with mix? I think I have pretty cool lead synth idea for this track.


lacking a bit of bass maybe?


Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-08-2014 12:09:


Posted by Lucidity on Sep-08-2014 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0


Sounds like the click on the kick, is a little too high in frequency or too loud, imo it shouldn't be louder than the hi hats, it sounds like it is clashing with them a little, to my ears, but I am listening on cans (K701's). I really like the direction of the track so far, I am very interested to hear this finished, keep up the good work, it has a nice vibe.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-08-2014 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Lucidity
Sounds like the click on the kick, is a little too high in frequency or too loud, imo it shouldn't be louder than the hi hats, it sounds like it is clashing with them a little, to my ears, but I am listening on cans (K701's). I really like the direction of the track so far, I am very interested to hear this finished, keep up the good work, it has a nice vibe.


Thanks Lucid, I tried using Bineaural Panning on the kick to create a better groove but I'm still new to the process. I think i should of just left it alone. However the pads I surrounded around the kick which to me was the aim i was going for, cheers. I will try and finish this one.


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-08-2014 23:01:

i scraped the other one and worked on this

edit: updated below


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-08-2014 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0


i like that the perc seems dead maybe add in a deep tribel type thud to go on the loop

like

K--nock nock kick

it should thicken up the loop as it sounds great with that type of sound i think!


Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-09-2014 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield
i like that the perc seems dead maybe add in a deep tribel type thud to go on the loop

like

K--nock nock kick

it should thicken up the loop as it sounds great with that type of sound i think!


Yes Thoren, I am missing that. Will add some, thanks.


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-09-2014 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0


Honestly it sounds like pretty much every WIP you post. Beat, pads, rolling bassline and/or mids. Mids in this case. Nothing really graps my attention. Try putting some melody or chords on top of this, start experimenting way out of your comfort zone, it really seems like you're always stuck on tiny things taking away from the bigger picture.


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-09-2014 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesty


Any problems with mix? I think I have pretty cool lead synth idea for this track.


Sounds a bit like the clean prog from 2009-ish which I think was done by David West and Jonas Hahmo at the time. It is a fun listen, sounds a bit dated, and could benefit from a bit more low end on the bassline. I'm a big fan of these type of stabby chords, so that's a plus . The chord progression works nicely. Nice sound overall.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-09-2014 08:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Honestly it sounds like pretty much every WIP you post. Beat, pads, rolling bassline and/or mids. Mids in this case. Nothing really graps my attention. Try putting some melody or chords on top of this, start experimenting way out of your comfort zone, it really seems like you're always stuck on tiny things taking away from the bigger picture.


Thanx!


Posted by Oakenshield on Sep-09-2014 15:48:




so i sorted it out a bit


Posted by evo8 on Sep-09-2014 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield



so i sorted it out a bit


better on the low-end but you could still roll off a bit more of the sub bassline

main problem with this track is that the lead is just way too loud and harsh. Noticed around the 4:55 mark the track starts to open up as the filter closes on the lead, the space becomes apparent then and you can actually hear the other elements in the mix.
Mixing is about a balance between everything - you cant have 1 element completely dominating everything else!

hth

p.s. also that clap is a little clich�d to my ears?


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