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Originally posted by chris marsh Darek I enjoyed this very nice imo quite a melancholy sound ! I really like the breakbeat type beats in the intro! Nice melodies and beats Sounds quite polished i think Like you say could benefit from some fx.high end detail/ whooshes etc, especially at 0.49 where a nice big white noise whoosh might work I personally feel you could high pass some of the elements apart from the sub to give it more room, as i feel its getting a bit muddy down there I think you could increase the highpass on the pads up to about 200 hz, at the mo theres pads down as far as about 80 hz according to digicheck Maybe compress the bass a bit harder, and pay the bass a bit more attention? Like it

Thanks mate for your time and suggestions - good input!!

At this moment few of my elements in this WIP will need to be adjust or tweak just to get this track to acceptable level (structurally and phonically speaking) - one of those element is bass line which will have to go through some fundamental reconstruction as right now I'm not really happy from the sound and depth of it

Also I may have to sublayer it to have specific and particular sound what I'm really after -> which is deep, tight but at some point in the track smooth and kind of floating around overall melody, creating on its own this warm and nostalgic atmosphere in this production.

Cheers man and I'm happy that you really like it so far !!!

Darek

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Originally posted by evo8 track is gone?

No, mate, is still available but only over here on TA site as this is only private track on SoundCloud and not visible to anyone over there.

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer Awesome as always, love the retro feel to the drums & synth. The hats seem too artificial for my taste though.

Still to early to call for me but I really like where this is going so far - have a good time with this one (some challenge on the bass line site but will figure it out sooner or later )

Always great to have your comment man, appreciate!!!

Darek

For the lack of off-topic thread posting here:

and it's not like they're really ableton.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 No, mate, is still available but only over here on TA site as this is only private track on SoundCloud and not visible to anyone over there. Cheers, Darek

ah...my apologies, chrome decided it wouldnt display the widget so got it in IE

yeah, nice! im liking that after the break, its grooving nicely, nice space there!!! and the progression is nice, i like that

just the synth in the break, its a bit plain?? i can hear the reverb on it but for me it could do with a bit more bite or something, its just a bit bland IMHO

Alrighttty, fixed a lot of things and here you go.

- first two "leads" is in C
- baseline is in F
- some of the efex is in A

this slightly indicates an F major but it totaly doesnt seem to be intentional, especially when more and more elements later on seems to be in C & D, and the break being in some Eminor scale. Complete mess if you ask me. Did u just press all the white keys on random?

Re: For the lack of off-topic thread posting here:

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer and it's not like they're really ableton.

- is that bad or good Patrick ????



Darek

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Originally posted by evo8 ah...my apologies, chrome decided it wouldnt display the widget so got it in IE yeah, nice! im liking that after the break, its grooving nicely, nice space there!!! and the progression is nice, i like that just the synth in the break, its a bit plain?? i can hear the reverb on it but for me it could do with a bit more bite or something, its just a bit bland IMHO

Thanks man, appreciate - yah, this pluck in the break will have some face lift in the short future as I also find it to weak or not too punchy/aggressive for my taste but I'm glad that you like this WIP so far

Here is another shot for the break,

Test Clean 30 APR2013 by DariusX.

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Alrighttty, fixed a lot of things and here you go.

Sorry mate, I have to agree with clay on this - there is nothing coherent or gluing all of those instruments together at the moment so I would spend as much time as possible to work on this aspect in your track - my 2 cents mate.

Darek

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Alrighttty, fixed a lot of things and here you go.

yes it sounds wrong because, as mentioned the parts or all in different keys

This is partly because you've stuck different synth loops from sample cds together right?

Perhaps stop trying to finish complete tracks and focus on learning for a bit - like learn some music theory, learn about making sounds, study some tracks you like and maybe have a go at recreating them etc?

Im not an expert but im confident that this will help


Chris

heres another techno one from me, trying to go darker and slightly more twisted, just roughly sketched out at the moment



edit: sorry, i should have cut a few minutes off that before i uploaded :-/

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Originally posted by clay - first two "leads" is in C - baseline is in F - some of the efex is in A this slightly indicates an F major but it totaly doesnt seem to be intentional, especially when more and more elements later on seems to be in C & D, and the break being in some Eminor scale. Complete mess if you ask me. Did u just press all the white keys on random?

Yup heh, all white keys only.

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Originally posted by chris marsh yes it sounds wrong because, as mentioned the parts or all in different keys This is partly because you've stuck different synth loops from sample cds together right? Perhaps stop trying to finish complete tracks and focus on learning for a bit - like learn some music theory, learn about making sounds, study some tracks you like and maybe have a go at recreating them etc? Im not an expert but im confident that this will help Chris

No loops this time and i tried going with the c major scale with white keys only

Thanks Darek, really and clay.

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Originally posted by evo8 heres another techno one from me, trying to go darker and slightly more twisted, just roughly sketched out at the moment edit: sorry, i should have cut a few minutes off that before i uploaded :-/

Like it so far has a good direction, don't fuck it up! No suggestions here would need to see how you finish it to tell if i put on it my A mark or decide you fucked it up :P

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Originally posted by evo8 heres another techno one from me, trying to go darker and slightly more twisted, just roughly sketched out at the moment edit: sorry, i should have cut a few minutes off that before i uploaded :-/

Really cool vibe! Sounds mechanical and quite cold, like it

Imo this is a bit thin in the 500 - 2k range, (where the wood block type percusison sits) Could do with another layer there

The fx are really cool, love the bass

I think you need more stereo width in the main body of the track, not sure how you would achieve this with a minimal sound, perhaps try panning similar sounds (ie pair of hats) hard left and right for example

You could make Synth sounds wider with plug ins or HAAS (pan hard left and right and delay one side by a few MS)

Voxengo sound delay is good for this.

loads of other great free plugs here, MSED and SPAN both awesome

http://www.voxengo.com/group/free-vst-plugins/

I also feel like the mid bass layer needs more aggression Maybe try splitting into several bands and distorting some to bring out the harmonics?

All just IMO of course

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Originally posted by chris marsh Really cool vibe! Sounds mechanical and quite cold, like it Imo this is a bit thin in the 500 - 2k range, (where the wood block type percusison sits) Could do with another layer there The fx are really cool, love the bass I think you need more stereo width in the main body of the track, not sure how you would achieve this with a minimal sound, perhaps try panning similar sounds (ie pair of hats) hard left and right for example You could make Synth sounds wider with plug ins or HAAS (pan hard left and right and delay one side by a few MS) Voxengo sound delay is good for this. loads of other great free plugs here, MSED and SPAN both awesome http://www.voxengo.com/group/free-vst-plugins/ I also feel like the mid bass layer needs more aggression Maybe try splitting into several bands and distorting some to bring out the harmonics? All just IMO of course

thanks rodri and thanks chris - yeah it needs some work, i listened last night on my itouch and it needs a bit more low mids, there is a sound playing there but its too low so i can bring that up a bit - will experiment with moving the bassline up 1 octave as well

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Originally posted by evo8 heres another techno one from me, trying to go darker and slightly more twisted, just roughly sketched out at the moment edit: sorry, i should have cut a few minutes off that before i uploaded :-/

Got something interesting sounding already Paul - like those Industrial sounding elements in your production man and with some more cleaning up in mixing stage (adding dynamics) you definitely would get something worth sending around my friend.

For your reference please check this guy (know him for some time) - his is producing something similar to your style and have some great dynamics in his tracks:

http://soundcloud.com/alen-milivoje...ic-psycho-lady/

Cheers man,

Darek

I listened to all the tracks you posted lately but i am too tired now to write down anything, about Chris Marsh's track just say that i found it very neat with a good melody and few advice i could give about it...

Tomorrow i'll comment about the rest Darek etc... better than writing on a hurry.

Started this today and got it more or less established, needs some risers, vocal loops and a tweak on the little breakdown at the end of this clip but you can see where i am going already, comments critiques are welcome.

Techno WIP 3 by Rodrisantos on Mixcloud

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I listened to all the tracks you posted lately but i am too tired now to write down anything, about Chris Marsh's track just say that i found it very neat with a good melody and few advice i could give about it... Tomorrow i'll comment about the rest Darek etc... better than writing on a hurry. Started this today and got it more or less established, needs some risers, vocal loops and a tweak on the little breakdown at the end of this clip but you can see where i am going already, comments critiques are welcome. Techno WIP 3 by Rodrisantos on Mixcloud Thanks in advance!

hmmm, i dont think the bassline is doing anything for the track really

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I listened to all the tracks you posted lately but i am too tired now to write down anything, about Chris Marsh's track just say that i found it very neat with a good melody and few advice i could give about it... Tomorrow i'll comment about the rest Darek etc... better than writing on a hurry. Started this today and got it more or less established, needs some risers, vocal loops and a tweak on the little breakdown at the end of this clip but you can see where i am going already, comments critiques are welcome. Techno WIP 3 by Rodrisantos on Mixcloud Thanks in advance!

Ok so my humble opinion :-)

There were elements I enjoyed but it did get a bit repetitive however I appreciate that "risers, vocal loops and a tweak on the little breakdown" will address that.

I would love to hear some sort of melody in there somewhere, unless that's not your style? I didnt know whether the top note (the consistent high note) was intentionally off key? If not I would suggest that you bring it down two noted from D# to C# but add in the odd departure from that. I liked the stuff around 4:10. 3:40 nearly blew my ears off :-).

Apart from that, not bad for one days work.

Now for my feeble addition to the WIP pile, my current project, a few evenings in.

My pre opinion of this is that most thigs will not survive in the current state, will likely change the bass and the lead...well everything, but i'm pretty sure the melody will be similar :-)

Opinions appreciated, never really put anything out there!

(Due to the lack of mastering lol I would request that this is listened to with headphones for now lol)

https://soundcloud.com/wayn0/basstry

Alright, Here goes one more time, hope is the last. I changed from A major scale to f-Major. I changed the breakdown melody. Took out a note in the pads so that they are in key with the choirs. I changed the first two leads to F and i guess thats almost it. If you spot any errors let me know and i'll give it the fix.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos I listened to all the tracks you posted lately but i am too tired now to write down anything, about Chris Marsh's track just say that i found it very neat with a good melody and few advice i could give about it... Tomorrow i'll comment about the rest Darek etc... better than writing on a hurry. Started this today and got it more or less established, needs some risers, vocal loops and a tweak on the little breakdown at the end of this clip but you can see where i am going already, comments critiques are welcome. Techno WIP 3 by Rodrisantos on Mixcloud Thanks in advance!

Nice Kick so far, god groove, not bad.

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Nice Kick so far, god groove, not bad.

Mine was so bad you just ignored it? :-(

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