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And they said it would never work, that it couldn't be done and that my thread would fail at once!! Mwuahaahahaha what say you now?!?

Lol this is like the biggest thread on TA

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Superb track and quality all round mate. No crits.

thanks man!! <3

Its me juan, i decided to end my podcast and post one more wip here with this username.

Whats different for this one is that I used my thunderbolt interface's mixer routed with logic with only 8 Channels. Each with its separate output. I realize this is the pro way of doing things.

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Originally posted by Robotrance so thunderbolt sounds the same in other words?

Its like dis palm. With the added slot thunderbolt it turns my 2x2 a/d d/a converter into 8 channel audio interface. Mixing from your soundcard's mixer gives you better results but you first you need to route. Okay its like analog mixing desk but only digital. Its a step further if you know what i mean.

Yeah thunderbolt cables sound the same even optical which is double bandwidth.

nevermind,

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Originally posted by Robotrance please explain. you say you use all 8 outputs. connected to what? a 8 ch outboard mixer? and then routed back to PC?

Each channel has its own separate output. For example I open an audio channel in Logic 10 Subass mono route to would be channel output 1-2

Same for midbass mono but that would output 2-3

All 16 inputs and outputs

Now speakers are monitor out from the lynx hilo thunderbolt.

Imo, its better like this instead of having everything crammed in one output. Its like a virtual mixer.

Now onto recording, open another audio channel and use input 1-2 and no output!, i almost blew my monitors like this. Ont he control bar press Play and Record and waveform will come out from every channel in virtual mixer (interface)


Its confusing, but i made the best of what I have or alteast tried new approach, I always been hearing mixing from your soundcards mixer will heath better results so idk.

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Originally posted by Robotrance so this thunderbolt device of yours: correct me if i missunderstood but; - it has 16 mono DACs (or 8 stereo) so taht you can route your VSTs, or drums or whatever separately and it be converted to analog. what bitrate/samplerate? - each converted channel is then summed to one stereo output connected to your monitors? how do you monitor adjust the levels on each channel and the master? does it have a GUI for this? - what do you do about the master output from this device? route it back to your daw for bouncing the master? - what about external instruments? are they routed into separate ADC inputs and mixed again externally? this sounds pretty messy imo. or are they mixed/summed before the ADC, in other words in analog domain, not possible to add efex on separate channels? - finaly - the master render of your song, are you really sure you are going out of the box, to the summing device then back in? to me it seems like you are doing nothing but adding analog noise and bitreducing. or: do you have an analog mixer as well?

no analog mixer, will get to this in abit,

16 Mono channels can go through one thunderbolt cable wire in to one dac which is the hilo. Also video at the same time i think

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Originally posted by Robotrance yes, similar to my Echo Audiofire 12. what then? its summed and played back on your monitors? or do you record the sum?

There;s isn't thunderbolt output to focal twins (monitors) on the hilo) there;s a separate output on the hilo in the back called monitoring where connect your speakers.

There's a feature called TBT Record on the hilo and i got all channels highlighted so everything gets bounced in the daw.

Instruments and samples got thru the dac once not back forth into the A/D

that what i'm gonna do later on with the sigma

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Originally posted by Robotrance without adding any analog external efex lie compression or reverb/delay this seems completely pointless. as i see it a device with many inputs/outps has three purposes: 1. connecting lots of external instruments without the need of an external mixer (more flexibility using internal efex on external instruments). 2. routing all your soft-instruments to an analog mixer (with aux efex). 3. adding external analog efex to soft-instruments you are just routing in and out loosing some bits, adding slight analog distortion with no hearable difference. lol, this is pretty funny. what did it cost you?

you can only connect one instrument to the hilo, yeah it did seem pointless at first but i had to see what hype was about so I gave it a go. I was bored.

Here's a vid of a M-Audio soundcard mixer routing,,

Hmm idk, i did all this with trial and error but i'll ask if there's actually more to it.

I would like to dedicate this wip to robotrance and storyteller.

Full beat at maximum power



sigh, i still have alooooooooooong way to go,

Don't we all. It sounds quite nice. I do feel like you've been making progress the last couple of months.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Rich I listened to this a few times b4 you took it down. I thought the songwriting was great, it was catchy (I was even remembering the track the next day which is a good indicator), the sound design didn't seem too sophisticated but a nice track to build on.

Cheers, yeah it was just an early WIP, no sound design, a long way to go with it yet, but been busy trying to finish some work for a label.
One of these is techno and I am attempting to take my sound design to a whole other level I never knew existed. My yearning for special sounds is very pronounced and almost all sounds I make do not pass quality control - it's fun but bloody hard work. I must have spent 4 hours on one hat sound alone, yawwnnn.

I should be arrested for that soulless clap.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation I should be arrested for that soulless clap.

I like the openness and clarity of mix so far, although something in the drum timing is slightly throwing things for me.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost I would like to dedicate this wip to robotrance and storyteller. Full beat at maximum power sigh, i still have alooooooooooong way to go,

I like the big rich bass but still for me the kick is not right and sounds disconnected from the track. I find the best way to get a kick to really gel is to layer and mess with a few and pay attention to tuning.

A WIP - I am very keen to produce old school drums and sounds here, not sure if to add a vocal. Break needs a repeating vocal I think.

Hah. This is quite cool I must say . I'd love it have a bit more high end, but it sounds very pleasing. Cool selection of sounds, really can't think of much that would actually require attention from my perspective.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I like the big rich bass but still for me the kick is not right and sounds disconnected from the track. I find the best way to get a kick to really gel is to layer and mess with a few and pay attention to tuning.

Will do Rich, thank you.

Paulizle

Yeah, Swamp is taking way to long. So w/e

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Originally posted by TranceElevation I should be arrested for that soulless clap.

this isnt bad but for me the progression just doesnt go anywhere

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Originally posted by Richard Butler A WIP - I am very keen to produce old school drums and sounds here, not sure if to add a vocal. Break needs a repeating vocal I think.

nice Richard, i like the lead sound directly after the break, before it goes back to the original sound

the kick has a nice driving sound to it

Sounding good Richard, the genre is not my cup of tea, but everything is in key, mixdown is awsome and the rest fits in place. Good Job man.

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