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Posted by netroM on May-25-2004 19:14:

What is "Jungle"?

Well... if you search on some pretty commercial proggies for "Trance", u might get "Jungle - Rave - Trance" in the title....
What is actually "Jungle"?? Some sort of DnB?

Anyone know of "Jungle" sets from 97-00?
I need more knowlege...

Posted by Tranc3 on May-25-2004 19:18:

Re: What is "Jungle"?

quote:
Originally posted by netroM
Well... if you search on some pretty commercial proggies for "Trance", u might get "Jungle - Rave - Trance" in the title....
What is actually "Jungle"?? Some sort of DnB?

Anyone know of "Jungle" sets from 97-00?
I need more knowlege...

Uhh...yeah I've never gotten anything like that in the title.

Posted by Torley Wong on May-25-2004 19:18:

Depending who you ask, definitions may vary and cancel each other out (in some ways).

To some, jungle is an earlier form of drum-'n'-bass that evolved gradually out of hardcore upping the BPMs and breakbeats in the early-mid 90s. To others, jungle is a "rougher, raw" type of drum-'n'-bass, hence the name "jungle" which could be part of "urban jungle", or rough life in the city (as featured in Goldie's "Inner City Life"). Some avoid the term as they believe it is racist, i.e. as in "jungle bunny" referring to Euro black people making their urban music like how it is paralleled in the States as hip-hop/rap culture.

For what it's worth, the allmusic.com definition (worth checking out but can't be linked to) combines both of them under the same heading. I believe the overlap is pretty big anyway and not worth quibbling about.

Hope this helps

Posted by torontotrance on May-25-2004 19:27:

Jungle was more ghetto Drum'N'Bass was more middle class

find the 1993 stuff to understand i.e Kenny Superhero Ken and Nicky Blackmarket

Posted by dj tek on May-25-2004 19:31:

jungle = d&b
goa = psy

Posted by Torley Wong on May-25-2004 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
jungle = d&b
goa = psy

This makes sense to me !

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-25-2004 20:27:

IMO Jungle is the warmer sound of dnb, also the earlier sound. 97 -00 sets? Please. Jungle hit its peak in the early 90s... Jungle usually doesnt follow the 2 step pattern you hear in a lot of drum and bass... its sort of like the stuff tech itch makes but warmer. A lot of the time it has vocals over it. Well most of the time. Its the best.

Posted by ziddy on May-25-2004 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
jungle = d&b
goa = psy

Hell no. Goa is much more "melodic" than psy. Goa forever!!

Posted by icyhandofcrap on May-25-2004 21:55:

hahah actually ive found something named

ayla - trance rave jungle (ATB Remix) on proggies

Posted by Chang monkey on May-25-2004 22:27:

jungle = Tom & Jerry - Maximum Style
DnB = Ram Trilogy - Titan

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-25-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Chang monkey
jungle = Tom & Jerry

excellent

Posted by Anno Domino on May-26-2004 01:34:

Jungle rocks but i prefer the other side of BPMs...

Trip Hop/Donwtempo/Illbent/Ambience/Downbeat

that shit is crazy good

Posted by nrjizer on May-26-2004 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by aspergian
Depending who you ask, definitions may vary and cancel each other out (in some ways).

To some, jungle is an earlier form of drum-'n'-bass that evolved gradually out of hardcore upping the BPMs and breakbeats in the early-mid 90s. To others, jungle is a "rougher, raw" type of drum-'n'-bass, hence the name "jungle" which could be part of "urban jungle", or rough life in the city (as featured in Goldie's "Inner City Life"). Some avoid the term as they believe it is racist, i.e. as in "jungle bunny" referring to Euro black people making their urban music like how it is paralleled in the States as hip-hop/rap culture.

For what it's worth, the allmusic.com definition (worth checking out but can't be linked to) combines both of them under the same heading. I believe the overlap is pretty big anyway and not worth quibbling about.

Hope this helps

Actually I'm pretty sure it evolved out of Reggae

Posted by vtec junkie on May-26-2004 03:54:

Jungle = Me beating on trash cans in my back yard.

Posted by torontotrance on May-26-2004 03:55:

lmao

cuz you heard tiesto's new album and realized it was overhyped.

Posted by Electronicapo1 on May-26-2004 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
lmao

cuz you heard tiesto's new album and realized it was overhyped.

tiesto has a new album?

Posted by Torley Wong on May-26-2004 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Actually I'm pretty sure it evolved out of Reggae

Yes, there are certainly a combination of roots, Reggae being prominent in such things as "Ragga Jungle" and the like. Strains like techstep obviously owe more to techno and industrial, and the amazing thing is you can throw so many things in the stew and it will taste yummy.

Posted by LinX on May-26-2004 04:33:

ughhh i cant stand jungle

Posted by netroM on May-26-2004 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by icyhandofcrap
hahah actually ive found something named

ayla - trance rave jungle (ATB Remix) on proggies

Exactly.... i've found:

Techno - Trance-Rave-Jungle--Dj Energy - Believer [Rave Version]
Trance-Rave-Jungle--Dj Quicksilver - Techno Macht Spass (Tad Edit)
Trance-Rave-Jungle--Dj Jurgen-Better Off Alone
and endless more crap..... but theres one of them with no other title than "Techno- Rave - Jungle Underground.mp3" Seems like a strange remix of some old classic which i can't remember

Posted by muravei on May-27-2004 13:26: