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Posted by nectario on Oct-05-2004 18:09:

Deep Dark Pads

Hi All,

I am looking for samples that are deep dark simple trance pads. Most pads I get from pro sample CDs are more involved and NOT simple... I want pads that have been used by Tiesto, and others..

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

-Nektarios


Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-05-2004 19:45:

A sample CD really isn't a good place to try finding these. Almost any decent VST can do these pads, just slap a chorus, reverb, and LP filter on it and tune to your liking.


Posted by nectario on Oct-05-2004 19:59:

Hey, thanks! What happens if I don't have a hardware synth?

I am using reason, but have TONES of samples...


Posted by hardikaveri on Oct-06-2004 10:55:

if you cant make your own pads use search button and download presets what other TA members have made.

also download all refills and patches from net. try www.reasonstation.net for example.

and do like walsh said... becouse right effecting makes a lot.


Posted by Bruchpilot on Oct-06-2004 11:05:

there is a deep pad in my synth 1 patches, that I have made, try the searchbutton to find it


Posted by hardikaveri on Oct-06-2004 11:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonicstyle
there is a deep pad in my synth 1 patches, that I have made, try the searchbutton to find it


but what it helps if he's using reason?
..if he wont rewire it to cubase or fruity..


Posted by nectario on Oct-06-2004 13:57:

Thanks all for your reply! But really, even though I use Reason, I almoast NEVER use subtraktor or Malstrom... I only use NNXT or NN19..

The pad I am refering is so typical in trance and yet no sample CD has it... Also, I am not refering to the Choir pads (those I have)...

Thanks,

-Nektarios


Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-06-2004 14:43:

No sample CD has any because it's trivial to make. Dust off your Subtractor and get to work =P


Posted by I_LUV_PVD on Oct-06-2004 15:34:

Yeah, seriously, Subtractor is your friend. It's so versatile- learn its secrets and it will treat you like a true friend. It will make pads, leads, bass, fx, and hell, you can even make kicks and percs and stuff with it, then export those files into Audacity (or your chosen wave editor) and eq and compress them for use in your Redrum. Check out the manual to learn the basics, then go snoop around online for more info.


Posted by nectario on Oct-06-2004 17:10:

Anyway, I am still not convinced Subtractor or Malstrom can sound the same as a hardware synth (fat and powerful)...


Posted by Bruchpilot on Oct-06-2004 17:12:

well, do you have high pads ?
if yes, just put a lowpass filter on them, and you have a deep and dark pad


Posted by Sean Walsh on Oct-06-2004 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by nectario
Anyway, I am still not convinced Subtractor or Malstrom can sound the same as a hardware synth (fat and powerful)...


I don't use Reason, but from what I've heard of those here that are brilliant with it, you'll have no problem creating the pad sound you want with the tools Reason provides you.

If you're expecting to find "PHAT PAD PRESET" you'll probably be unsuccessful, but with even the most limited use of a chorus, reverb and lowpass filtering on top of a saw waveform you can create your typical run of the mill trance pad.


Posted by nectario on Oct-06-2004 17:52:

I get it now! Thanks!


Posted by Jarjar on Oct-06-2004 18:00:

Effects = everything.
You can get pretty much ANY sound out of reason if you know how to do it. Some are harders than others of course.

I gotta admit though, I really suck at pads and FX right now, some tutorials would be nice. Anyone?


Posted by Pimp_fu on Oct-07-2004 01:06:

Take a strings preset, layer it either an octave higher, or an octave lower, Chorus, maybe a filter sweep if you want to give it some tension. Give it a long attack and release. Lather, rinse, repeat if neccesary.


Posted by hardikaveri on Oct-07-2004 05:29:

i made mistake like this like year ago.
i juts listen the sounds without propa effecting and it sounded really bad, but then i got some wiring tutorial on my hand and ,,voila,,


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-07-2004 07:09:

quote:
Originally posted by nectario
Anyway, I am still not convinced Subtractor or Malstrom can sound the same as a hardware synth (fat and powerful)...




i don't know what you expect but this comes from 3 subtractors and 1 malstorm(voice)

very happy with sounds like these, but thats just me.

Pads


Posted by Flashback on Oct-07-2004 14:56:

Serious all you really need to make good music now is crystal, a free softsynth. I have made music forever and still have a bunch of hardware synths but a nord lead 3 vs. crystal is the same sound to me basically. What about absynth, that softsynth sounds just as good as my yamaha ex5(the one before the motif) if not better. I am listening throught genelec 1031a's and I think my opinion is valid, with my experience level.

Just pull up a few soft synths and learn how to create sounds, start with a clean program or modify another existing one. A basic knowledge of Synthesis is great for Understanding how to program sounds my friend.

Synthesis is very simple, it goes like this

Sound Source-->Amplifer---LFO-->--->Effects--->Filter-->Sound Out
(sample or Has attack
oscillator) delay decay release

All you do is take the sound source, which you basically take a WAVE as is a SINE Wave, what a Oscilator is essentially.

Use the Attack Delay Decay Release settings to make a sound

for a pad the attack is long, and the delay through release are long as well


For a lead sound that is very responsive the attack is almost zero while the delay is somewhere in the middle, while the decay is a similar value and perhaps the release is almost nothing in some instances.


All you have todo is have a basic understand of how sounds are created, thus you can Make ANY sound yourself!!!!

This is what every pro producer does, well some use presets and well all do right. But show me one preset sound on infected mushrooms cd, what about crystal method? Name one pro producer that doesn't program at least 60% of thier sounds. I mean once you get it down, it is so easy and fun; The results are astounding! You can make something as orginal as your music for the world to enjoy.

May I suggest taking a basic synthesis course at college or read a book, webpages. Everything helps, learn as much as you can from all the wierd crap and it really helps with everything else in producing music.

Flashback


Posted by AaroNoct on Oct-07-2004 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84


i don't know what you expect but this comes from 3 subtractors and 1 malstorm(voice)

very happy with sounds like these, but thats just me.

Pads


That sounds cool. You should expand this idea.


Posted by Massive84 on Oct-07-2004 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by AaroNoct
That sounds cool. You should expand this idea.


am in a producing crissis.

everything i make or compose, is not good anymore .



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