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Posted by djbruuen on Oct-22-2004 15:45:

probspot comments...

when i heard probspot - foreplay, i absolutely loved it...but now that i'm hearing all his other tunes...they all sound the same! he doesn't seem to have any diversity at all in his production style. Its always a held bassline line and a high pitched stabby synth. I think his ideas are great, but he has to expand new horizons instead of copying his previous works.


Posted by Acton on Oct-22-2004 15:48:

i agree that there simliar sounding, but either way this guy is a genius and i love his tunes. and it would be interesting to see what else he could do with regards to new ideas, he will do with time anyway


Posted by keithos27 on Oct-22-2004 15:57:

he is trying to establish a "sound"... i don't think all of his songs will be like this forever... really like "foreplay" and his remix of "jump the next train"

additional info can be found here: http://trance.nu/v3/news_show.php?i...19e9b436bca9d10

-keith


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-22-2004 16:02:

The most overrated producer of 2004.

He started off decent enough but he's been cashing in on the same idea ever since.


Posted by placebo on Oct-22-2004 16:05:

The first one I heard was Blueberry, but after that, everything I listened to by him sounded really similiar, I know I couldn't do any better, but I agree, he might want to work on diversifying his sound a little bit, rather then using the same formula for his tracks.


Posted by UWM on Oct-22-2004 16:12:

Same recycled sounds over and over and over .. the only original work of his I've heard is 'Flexure', which I haven't really heard any infos on.


Posted by mentalbarter on Oct-22-2004 18:42:

yep all sound the same


Posted by n0bben on Oct-22-2004 19:10:

the 12 with rico soarez- tv dinner/timeless was good.

but yea, same bassline always and nothing new really


Posted by BeatifulEmotion on Oct-22-2004 19:29:

his best tune is TV Dinner definetly
thats a masterpiece but i dont know he better change his sounds etc etc

out!


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-22-2004 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
The most overrated producer of 2004.

He started off decent enough but he's been cashing in on the same idea ever since.


couldn't agree more
although some of his tracks/remixes are in my top 50 of this year!


Posted by starglider on Oct-22-2004 19:57:

Definitely overrated. Blueberry was awesome, after that he's gradually turning into the Envio of GDJB prog. Also, I noticed that his entire style seems to be based on Bug - So What (Commie Remix).


Posted by JFernie on Oct-22-2004 20:05:

same applies to Ozgur Can imo


Posted by daphunky1 on Oct-22-2004 21:19:

I think oyu guys nare all being too harsh at hte moment.


Posted by InfiniteSquare on Oct-22-2004 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by JFernie
same applies to Ozgur Can imo


yes, true

only difference is probspot is better


Posted by Sevari on Oct-22-2004 21:58:

I just think he makes great music, he's not that long in the bussiness yet, so he will learn other stuff, and if he does it will be great music... I just know


Posted by TheVrk on Oct-22-2004 22:19:

too early for me to REALLY judge,
but i've loved his stuff til now....

interested to see HOW he's gonna
alter his sound tho


Posted by shylock on Oct-22-2004 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
too early for me to REALLY judge,
but i've loved his stuff til now....

interested to see HOW he's gonna
alter his sound tho


yeah, he is still very new in the big game, give him a year or two and I�m sure he�ll prove his skills. atleast he is not ripping anyone else, he got his own sound.
I�ve been listening to probspot for a long time even before he got "famous" he does evolve in his sound but slowly. I really liked his deephouse stuff. from what I�ve heard he is not doing progg stuff anymore, more in to progressive breakbeat. Still one of the best producers of 2004 IMO.


Posted by Ian on Oct-22-2004 23:17:

there's too much hype around all of these producers atm. Due to the way music is changing, we're getting an awful lot of tracks from everyone and quality is lost with a lack of new features/ideas. It will be important for them to move on with the sounds as has been said, and some of them won't be able to, only time will show who can/cannot. All i'm hoping for is less of the '2004' sounds in 2005


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-22-2004 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
there's too much hype around all of these producers atm. Due to the way music is changing, we're getting an awful lot of tracks from everyone and quality is lost with a lack of new features/ideas. It will be important for them to move on with the sounds as has been said, and some of them won't be able to, only time will show who can/cannot. All i'm hoping for is less of the '2004' sounds in 2005


Somehow I wouldn't count on it. Armin hasn't really been compelled to change his sound since 2002, and the close association of ASOT with the American Prog movement makes me skeptical that anyone involved will feel the need to artistically evolve. Probspot, Ozgur Can, even Schulz and Learma & Moor seem to be trending that way.

I mean, compare that to what, say, Marco V has done in the last year: C:\del*.mp3, Solarize, the Bang Bang bootleg, Automanual. Much more dynamic.


Posted by Ian on Oct-22-2004 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Somehow I wouldn't count on it. Armin hasn't really been compelled to change his sound since 2002, and the close association of ASOT with the American Prog movement makes me skeptical that anyone involved will feel the need to artistically evolve. Probspot, Ozgur Can, even Schulz and Learma & Moor seem to be trending that way.


Then I hope at least that someone else as deserving takes the spotlight and gives us something good to listen to


Posted by tc-fan on Oct-22-2004 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
yes, true

only difference is probspot is better



Osgur is better all the way..his percussion rules....


Posted by shylock on Oct-22-2004 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
Osgur is better all the way..his percussion rules....


IMO it�s hard to compare them..they are to diffrent in their style, both good at what they do. they should join forces and do something together.
that would be something.


Posted by DjSimonB on Oct-23-2004 00:06:

Ozgur has a distinct style that you can identify, but that doesn't mean all his tunes sound the same.

Probspot isn't bad though, not heard that many of his tunes but what I've heard is nice. I didn't like Foreplay that much because of that cheesy-sounding synth that comes in sounding like some 80's tv show, but the beat and bass and other synths are nice and warm.

I hope these producers do evolve a bit, especially Ozgur because he's already so prolific, he needs to keep evolving to keep his productions interesting...


Posted by Phortastic on Oct-23-2004 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Somehow I wouldn't count on it. Armin hasn't really been compelled to change his sound since 2002, and the close association of ASOT with the American Prog movement makes me skeptical that anyone involved will feel the need to artistically evolve. Probspot, Ozgur Can, even Schulz and Learma & Moor seem to be trending that way.

I mean, compare that to what, say, Marco V has done in the last year: C:\del*.mp3, Solarize, the Bang Bang bootleg, Automanual. Much more dynamic.



true true...
C:\del*.mp3 is still in my top 5 ever btw (as is Simulate)


Posted by capricorn15 on Oct-23-2004 01:42:

well, im not sure if he is trying to establish a new sound because if you listen to bug - so what (dj commie remix) from 2000, check out teh bassline and overall song, it sounds like probspot, except 4 years ago


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