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Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2005 00:36:

Worm Popper Question for Signed Producers, like Gerry and Sunquest.

Guys,
I am wondering, how much you get paid for every track you get signed? It is enought like to survive just producing? Plz, I would apreciate a lot if you reply to this because I am really wonder about how is life for a signed producer.
Thanx in advance .
Kopi =o.


Posted by gerrycueto on Apr-10-2005 02:16:

Play live. You won't make it being just a producer. If you don't DJ, try live keyboard sequencing like Nu-NRG or BT.


Posted by alexpea on Apr-10-2005 09:40:

It all depends on how much your productions sells.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Apr-10-2005 09:50:

I doubt anyone would give away their deal details...


Posted by retiro on Apr-10-2005 10:01:

Ask mister van gelder (aka Icone/Lightworks), he is pretty busy at the moment releasing stuff! Doubt he'd give his secrets away but sure he'll guide you in some direction!


Posted by Massive84 on Apr-10-2005 11:41:

So far 2 tracks with my work have been sold.

Let me put it this way, i can't buy me a porsche , but i can buy me some wicked shoes or new clothes or upgrade my pc etc.

iF you are good in producing and lets say manage to make a good track and a remix each month, it will be a nice *extra* on top whatever you get or earn each month. But thats about it

Also, your question indicates that you wanne produce for money, i wouldn't really recommend this.


Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2005 14:19:

Also, your question indicates that you wanne produce for money, i wouldn't really recommend this.

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Not really , is just that I was wondering about how much a producer get's when it is not a super star yet .
Kopi =o.


Posted by Frase on Apr-10-2005 15:11:

depends on the label

but one track wouldnt pay your rent for a week thats for sure


Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2005 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Frase
depends on the label

but one track wouldnt pay your rent for a week thats for sure

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WOW, that's totally fucked up , I though you could get at least 1000 for a good track.
OK, but what about royalties?
Kopi =o.


Posted by Frase on Apr-10-2005 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
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WOW, that's totally fucked up , I though you could get at least 1000 for a good track.
OK, but what about royalties?
Kopi =o.


it depends on the label really, some offer good deals, some offer run of the mill.

but you're looking at it for the wrong reasons. Music first, money second.


Posted by staticblue on Apr-10-2005 15:18:

Music first, Music second


Posted by Luke Terry on Apr-10-2005 15:33:



who really gives a shit about the money anyway ?


Posted by alexpea on Apr-10-2005 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry


who really gives a shit about the money anyway ?



I Agree 100% ! Money means nothing


Posted by kopi_luwak on Apr-10-2005 16:12:

quote:

but you're looking at it for the wrong reasons. Music first, money second.


It's just a question buddy, dunno why all you begin with that, I live of to be a concertist in classical guitar, so I do live already of music, it's just a wonder I have always had.
Kopi =o.


Posted by Digital Aura on Apr-10-2005 18:00:

Kopi...don't get offended by them. They are only defending this:
That music should be made because of the love of making it and having others enjoy it. That passion is the driving force behind it. If not..its not worth trying to make a living out of it. It has to be purely motivated by the love. Not money.

Your question remains valid, for sure! Obviously it's good to know where you would stand should you be able to get the attention of some labels! They are just saying that you need to continue with life as usual to get the bills paid and if you happen to get good at it...it'll be because you love doing it. There's definitely a corelation between how good someone is, how much they love producing and how successful they can be at producing for a living!


Posted by RIPassion on Apr-10-2005 19:16:

Whoa now, there's a big difference between making music for the money and merely wanting to know how much you make for producing a track or two (like kopi).

Everyone would like to aspire to something, you know, just to know where the next rung on the ladder is (and what's at the top of the ladder). Maybe some producer really wants to become someone like Moby, who doesn't have to worry about a second job because his producing skills earn him enough to have a professional studio and support the lifestyle he likes to live (whether it be buying a nice pair of shoes vs. a porsche, like Gerry said). It's like anytime the word *gulp* money is said on these boards everyone shits his pants and says the same damn thing - kopi just wants an honest answer to a direct question.

As for the question, sorry I can't answer it.


Posted by DJ Dinz on Apr-10-2005 19:25:

but sometimes money is important... to buy some kick ass hardware to produce more satisfied track... i dont think is good that we invest too much on hardware & stuffs...because we need to estimate ourself.. example: "if i got signed.. then i will buy a fancy & expensive synth to produce better music" so i think kopi & others and me as well has the right to know bout this.. again.. it depends that someone is wise enough to tell us...

I heard at least US$1100 per track.. for the 1st time u got signed.. (i heard, i dont experience it )
Correct me if im wrong.. peace to all

Cheers & happy producing!


Posted by Massive84 on Apr-10-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dinz
but sometimes money is important... to buy some kick ass hardware to produce more satisfied track... i dont think is good that we invest too much on hardware & stuffs...because we need to estimate ourself.. example: "if i got signed.. then i will buy a fancy & expensive synth to produce better music" so i think kopi & others and me as well has the right to know bout this.. again.. it depends that someone is wise enough to tell us...

I heard at least US$1100 per track.. for the 1st time u got signed.. (i heard, i dont experience it )
Correct me if im wrong.. peace to all

Cheers & happy producing!


Nah unless it sells awesomely and you have someone made a remix for free for you or a EP.

It can pay decent.

However let me add to your money is important thing. IT is so much better to get paid a bit by the one thing you adore doing, it beats working in a supermarket or mcdonalds .


Posted by DJ Dinz on Apr-10-2005 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
Nah unless it sells awesomely and you have someone made a remix for free for you or a EP.

It can pay decent.

However let me add to your money is important thing. IT is so much better to get paid a bit by the one thing you adore doing, it beats working in a supermarket or mcdonalds .


och ic.. if it sells awesome.. Thnx man
Yeah i understand it.. i mean "sometimes" money is important... we need money to buy our software/hardware, upgrading our CPU

Thanks for the correction
Peace!


Posted by alexpea on Apr-10-2005 19:36:

I doubt anyone (except Benni Benassi) produce music BECAUSE of the money. I will continue producing music until I die, no matter the income.

For me, it's a hobby - and will always be. Of course, it would be cool to earn a living out of the hobby, but don't expect it. Very few manage this.


Posted by DJ-Igloo on Apr-10-2005 19:51:

kopi this is how it works mate usally u get signed to a label lets say john dowweaowejawenkl label every 3 months they release a sales report and thats usally when u get paid of all ur earnings for those three months. I'm not sure every label works like this but most do. Its not near enough to make it by as other said it takes other incomes to support ur self.


Posted by Sunquest on Apr-10-2005 20:34:

lol
well as many have said before in interviews... you cant make a living off producing, and as the first replier said: become a DJ, they make tons of money!

although there are some idiots that live in my city that PAY 1000 dollars to dj in a club downtown, damn i cant get enough of how stupid they are! o well their loss (and they think its cool)

but anyways, if u produce tracks and get signed every month, thatll be a nice living i think hehe

but it does have to sell a lot, biggest pay offs are compilations id have to say, but again, become a dj

i dont dj and prolly wont for a while or ever who knows... i just love producing i believe if u can stick to one thing, u can be at the top of the game if u try hard enough hehe

and remember, its not for the money but for the music...


Posted by DJ-Igloo on Apr-10-2005 20:36:

amen sun!


Posted by Kenidel Lopez on Apr-10-2005 20:47:

I love producing tracks to a point where I can just stay working on a track for hours and hours and hours, take a nap, wake up again, and go back to work for more hours.

It is fun and I enjoy it.

My "Pay" (for now) comes in the form of the feeling I get from sharing my track(s) with others and them enjoying those tracks.

But...

here is where things get complicated,

I will ultimately need another form of compensation = $$$

IF I am producing good quality tracks, and I am getting a lot of remixing deals and so forth (1 or 2 a month), I will need money in return in order to compensate for the time lost/Not worked out there in the "real world" (not getting a paycheck from anywhere else to pay "the bills").

Its like I am not in it for the money but at the same time,

I am in it for the money.

-Kenidel Lopez


Posted by Jay M on Apr-10-2005 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunquest


although there are some idiots that live in my city that PAY 1000 dollars to dj in a club downtown, damn i cant get enough of how stupid they are! o well their loss (and they think its cool)


Who the fuck pays to DJ?! Thats the most stupid thing I heard in a while haha, you serious Ron?

quote:

and remember, its not for the money but for the music...


Amen x2


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