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Upgrading to Battery 3 from Battery 2

Has anyone done this? Did old projects that use battery 2 transfer over ok? Things like eq, compression etc.? Any problems/warnings?

Cheers

not too sure if that would work, i know when i had battery and tried to open a file that contained battery2 it wouldnt work, so i dont think it would work,someone correct me if i may be wrong though.

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Originally posted by Anz_ not too sure if that would work, i know when i had battery and tried to open a file that contained battery2 it wouldnt work, so i dont think it would work,someone correct me if i may be wrong though.

It makes perfect sense battery 1 cant open battery 2 files. Battery 2 introduced a number of new features. Battery 3 is perfectly backwards compatible with battery 2.l The sample library alone is worth the upgrade.

ahh ok thanks for clearing that up .

Thanks to both of you for the help. I've searched the NI forums etc. but no-one seemed to mention this. I guess that's a good sign.

Well since you have had no problems frOst I'll try the demo and re-install Battery 2 if anything goes wrong. I love Battery 2 so I'm looking forward to this.

Thanks again

Ok so here's what I found:

I had to set up sidechaining, reverb etc. again because my previous drums routing was lost when I switched to Battery 3. There must be a way around this though...

The manual doesn't mention anything about getting round these type of problems upgrading from V2, dumb.

A couple of cells were corrupted. They were refusing to play sound even when a new sample was loaded and for some reason triggered another cell when clicked.

When you preview one cell quickly after another it glitches.

In the browser, files don't autoplay when you use the up and down arrows. This means you strain your arm from clicking.

Even though battery showed as using about 3% cpu max, there was a fair amount of stuttering. Even after reinstalling V2 my systems still unstable, I'm experiencing clipping/stuttering just by selecting tracks. It's gonna be fun ironing that one out!

I'm glad it's working for you frOst but I'm gonna wait 6 months minimum before I consider upgrading again.

Cheers.

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Originally posted by Synchronicity Ok so here's what I found: I had to set up sidechaining, reverb etc. again because my previous drums routing was lost when I switched to Battery 3. There must be a way around this though... The manual doesn't mention anything about getting round these type of problems upgrading from V2, dumb. A couple of cells were corrupted. They were refusing to play sound even when a new sample was loaded and for some reason triggered another cell when clicked. When you preview one cell quickly after another it glitches. In the browser, files don't autoplay when you use the up and down arrows. This means you strain your arm from clicking. Even though battery showed as using about 3% cpu max, there was a fair amount of stuttering. Even after reinstalling V2 my systems still unstable, I'm experiencing clipping/stuttering just by selecting tracks. It's gonna be fun ironing that one out! I'm glad it's working for you frOst but I'm gonna wait 6 months minimum before I consider upgrading again. Cheers.

What system are you running? Im running logic/ableton on osx 10.4. My only problem has been cells aren't lighting up when triggered.


Oh and yeah I lost my routing when going from 2-3 but that didnt take more than a few min to fix per project.

i heard battery 3 sux and you should stick with 2

kind of like Halion, its just gotten uselessly complex and retarded with every version. manuel from vengenace still uses Halion 1.

And the dog?

i find animals in top hats humorous.

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Originally posted by fr0st What system are you running? Im running logic/ableton on osx 10.4. My only problem has been cells aren't lighting up when triggered. Oh and yeah I lost my routing when going from 2-3 but that didnt take more than a few min to fix per project.

I'm running a P4 3.2 Northwood, 1 Gig Ram.

I'm sure with time these problems can be fixed, but I had a think to myself and realised that I don't need any more stuff. It would have been nice if it worked perfectly right away, but I really want to get stuck into sound design/engineering and not waste time on these less important things.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja i find animals in top hats humorous.

Hehe, I didn't realise it was a sig. So you can see why I was wondering what the fuck a dog in a top hat had to do with anything.

Yeah I hear you man. Battery 3 actually has been really great for me, with the preview functions and what not, I tend not to use any of the effects in battery.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out for you so well. I can't be arsed to upgrade, personally - it's the old "good enough" syndrome with NI these days, the only new features they've introduced in any of their product upgrades which really jump out at me are the "improved" copy-oppression schemes.

Yeah, I know, they've added a bunch of new samples and whatnot. I've already got 120 gigs of those.

I actually think my soundcard has something to do with it as well. I got the emu 1820M about a month ago and although it has a great sound and great features, it also has some stability issues. I miss the sample rate auto-change from my ESI Juli@, I also miss the fact I never had any midi timing issues (apart from small random ms of drift, which you could argue gives a human feel anyway). I thought my Virus had bad midi sync but actually I think that slight glitches in my soundcard make the timing offset.

I think this is where technology is it's own enemy, every time it get's more advanced new potential problems arise. It's easy to get caught in the trap of thinking that getting new stuff will help you produce but in actual fact there's a good chance you'll end up spending hours, days or even weeks fixing small but annoying problems. And because I now have so much stuff it's extremely hard to isolate the problem. My soundcard could be absolutely fine, but the drivers could be clashing with my graphics card. Messenger Live could have a registry entry that affects cubase etc. etc.

I think when writing music you should go with your heart, not your head. But with technology you should go with your head, not your heart.

So I'm gonna spend the next few days having a good cleaning session, getting rid of unnecessary software, maybe re-installing drivers, cubase amongst other things. I might even get a new hard drive and re-install XP because there's probably all sorts of old drivers, uninstall remnants in my OS. My hard-drive has never crashed, but I've really pushed it and it's definately due a failure.

It's a really nice feeling starting from a fresh OS install too, so yeah, I'm gonna go for it.

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Originally posted by Synchronicity Ok so here's what I found: I had to set up sidechaining, reverb etc. again because my previous drums routing was lost when I switched to Battery 3. There must be a way around this though... The manual doesn't mention anything about getting round these type of problems upgrading from V2, dumb. A couple of cells were corrupted. They were refusing to play sound even when a new sample was loaded and for some reason triggered another cell when clicked. When you preview one cell quickly after another it glitches. In the browser, files don't autoplay when you use the up and down arrows. This means you strain your arm from clicking. Even though battery showed as using about 3% cpu max, there was a fair amount of stuttering. Even after reinstalling V2 my systems still unstable, I'm experiencing clipping/stuttering just by selecting tracks. It's gonna be fun ironing that one out! I'm glad it's working for you frOst but I'm gonna wait 6 months minimum before I consider upgrading again. Cheers.

so u use cubase and u mentioned sidechainging with battery 2....

how did u work that in battery 2, the sidechaining?????

i have b2 an use cubase but never thought this was possible, as far as i new in cubase u had to do all sidechaining with audio tracks!

some insight please???

lol... u can route the output of the battery outputs to group channels just the same u route audio tracks to group channels. if you know how to sidechain with audio tracks you can sidechain with battery.. same exact thing.

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Originally posted by jey so u use cubase and u mentioned sidechainging with battery 2.... how did u work that in battery 2, the sidechaining????? i have b2 an use cubase but never thought this was possible, as far as i new in cubase u had to do all sidechaining with audio tracks! some insight please???

Yeah, in Battery's options choose how many stereo outs you want, 8 is usually a good number for me.. you can always change it later anyway. Assign the cell containing the kick to outputs 3/4 for example. Then in the VST instruments/Battery2VST/Bat.3/4 track you assign the out to the group track for sidechaining.

Dunno if you've seen this, but it's quite handy:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kv9tbn

Shoulda said.. It's a video of how to sidechain in cubase using Otium FX Compadre.

say i wanted to sidechain the kick in battery with say v-station which im using for my bassline, are u saying that can be done???

or do u still need to record the bass to an audio track for sidechaining with the battery kick???

the link says corrupt when downloaded!

thanks......

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Originally posted by jey say i wanted to sidechain the kick in battery with say v-station which im using for my bassline, are u saying that can be done??? or do u still need to record the bass to an audio track for sidechaining with the battery kick??? the link says corrupt when downloaded! thanks......

Yeah, you can do it straight from v-station - no audio track required.

You set up the quadro group track with the sidechain compressor inserted. Route the kick to it like I explained, then route V-station to the group track and follow this video:

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Hopefully the link will work this time! The other one works for me so I dunno what's happening there.

If it doesn't play you can click the 'Download? Click here to download this media.' under the red box.

always thought sonething like that would be soooo handy!! lol

nope links dont like me tried to play it in everything, media player, quick time, real player and still it says no dam dam dam..

thanks for the info matey, i will put it to the test!

so do u think battery 3 is worth the upgrade Synchronicity???

I think it could be hard just to do this from my explanations. If you get the free VLC media player http://www.videolan.org/ it will definately play. VLC is great for files that don't open in other players.

As for battery 3, I'd stay clear for now.. battery 2 is fine and from my experiences and from reading the NI forums it's a bit hit-and-miss whether it will work or not. Then again it worked for frOst, so it's up to you really.

if it aint broke dont fix it sorta thing lol

ill give that a go mate, thanks for the help

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Originally posted by Synchronicity I think it could be hard just to do this from my explanations. If you get the free VLC media player http://www.videolan.org/ it will definately play. VLC is great for files that don't open in other players. As for battery 3, I'd stay clear for now.. battery 2 is fine and from my experiences and from reading the NI forums it's a bit hit-and-miss whether it will work or not. Then again it worked for frOst, so it's up to you really.

yea that player played it fine!

that video looks like its all in audio tracks to me

No problem, to play/pause in VLC you can use the spacebar which is handy. I wish media player did this.. most apps took on board standards set by microsoft e.g. the menu bar. But microsoft are too stubborn and narrow minded to accept any other developers way of thinking, hence the fact that a lot of their apps are shit. /rant

Good luck.

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