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Posted by yellow1 on Jan-04-2007 22:17:

Shame / Disagreement saddams death caught on video full clip viewer advisory suggested

*Video removed *

I posted this for those who wanted to see what happened. This link was from wikipedia. Do Not Flame me on this please as I put it here to share my anger on how this whole thing unfolded. You should not watch this clip if it angers you. I was saddened and angered all at once, my feelings were tumultuous. I cannot make everyone happy here...my message is to convey that we are very lucky to be free, and not to take that for granted and to treat your fellow man with dignity, not like this video shows. I did not post this for people to be offended but rather enlightened by the answer of what really happened. This is not for shock value or whatever you interpret this thread to be. It's a fragment of humanity gone wrong. A window, that's all. Think of what YOU represent and be happy, thats the whole point of this thread!!!!!

BTW, they caught the three guards responsible for this video clip, ponder all that has transpired?!!!!

Ps. I could have attached the link to the video instead, but I cut and pasted this youtube viewer for your convenience.

PPS. Thanks Swamper for moderating (fixing) this post. I am getting flamed, big time.


Posted by DarkAngel on Jan-04-2007 22:18:

How's it hangin', Saddam?


Posted by ItalianPoiSon on Jan-04-2007 22:22:

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
not even cnn has got that....


Posted by yellow1 on Jan-04-2007 22:24:

Re: saddams death caught on video full clip

sorry about all the extra space around the viewer, I am not a web developer, This video and what it represents saddens me that there are such horrors in the world. People will kill each other to no end. We are lucky to be free in this country. Human kind is in trouble, this video proves that savages will always be savages no matter what end of the rope you are on.

this post might be pulled, no offense Mr Swamper if you do,this video angered me when I first saw it.


Posted by starsearcher on Jan-04-2007 22:24:

I don't understand why the guys who video taped it using their phone and then posted it on Youtube got arrested?! What's the big f'n deal?!


Posted by MarkT on Jan-04-2007 22:33:

I didn't even watch it...

IMHO, gawking at the execution of a human being is disgusting and this thread should be deleted by the thread starter or a mod.

they don't allow news crews in for a reason...taping an execution and releasing it to the public is morally and legally reprehensible.

IMHO, the person who leaked it should face as serious a legal sanction as is allowed under the law.

capital punishment is, IMHO, barbaric enough without assholes like this guy turning it into a spectacle after the fact.

disgusting.


Posted by locodawg on Jan-04-2007 22:34:

A part of this clip was actually shown on the news ... dont remember which channel it was but thats how I heard it was posted.

Its sad how he got mocked right before his death...sure what he did in the past was evil, but your about the kill the dude cut him slack for at least that 5 min.


Posted by yellow1 on Jan-04-2007 22:44:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MarkT
I didn't even watch it...

IMHO, gawking at the execution of a human being is disgusting and this thread should be deleted by the thread starter or a mod.

I agree Mark, but ignoring this event doesn't work either. I was angered when I saw Saddam being heckled and handled like this on CNN. This is only to express my sadness of it all and make people realize how lucky we are, so no offense please!!


Posted by girllovingtvibe on Jan-04-2007 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by locodawg
A part of this clip was actually shown on the news ... dont remember which channel it was but thats how I heard it was posted.

Its sad how he got mocked right before his death...sure what he did in the past was evil, but your about the kill the dude cut him slack for at least that 5 min.


i dont feel any news station should be broadcasting this nor do I feel people should watch it....


Posted by exstasie on Jan-04-2007 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
I didn't even watch it...

IMHO, gawking at the execution of a human being is disgusting and this thread should be deleted by the thread starter or a mod.

they don't allow news crews in for a reason...taping an execution and releasing it to the public is morally and legally reprehensible.

IMHO, the person who leaked it should face as serious a legal sanction as is allowed under the law.

capital punishment is, IMHO, barbaric enough without assholes like this guy turning it into a spectacle after the fact.

disgusting.


I understand what your saying, but its not like anyone is forcing you or any else to watch it. If you feel its morally and legally reprehensible, then don't watch it. Where as I'm sure there are tons of people out there who can't wait to see the video.


Posted by PressPLay on Jan-04-2007 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I understand what your saying, but its not like anyone is forcing you or any else to watch it. If you feel its morally and legally reprehensible, then don't watch it. Where as I'm sure there are tons of people out there who can't wait to see the video.


Agreed.

I knew this clip was available for a few days and avoided searching and watching it. It is only because of this thread and genuine curiosity I viewed it.

Thread starter made this very accessible, but nobody pointed a gun to my head and said "WATCH IT".


Posted by fairy godfather on Jan-04-2007 22:56:

There is an outcry about this video....yet no outcry about the execution itself....

No matter the circumstances...we can NEVER be a civilized world whilst rejoicing in the willful death of another human being.

I hope the moderator will shut this thread down!


Posted by exstasie on Jan-04-2007 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by PressPLay
Agreed.

I knew this clip was available for a few days and avoided searching and watching it. It is only because of this thread and genuine curiosity I viewed it.

Thread starter made this very accessible, but nobody pointed a gun to my head and said "WATCH IT".


I think i have been desensitized to this kind stuff over the years cause it had no effect on me.

I remember when they first evaded Iraq, and a few of soldiers/Americans were kidnapped and be headed. I saw the videos of it...and it had no effect on me whatsoever...

Kinda scary that I think about it now...


Posted by Chris Allen on Jan-04-2007 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ItalianPoiSon
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
not even cnn has got that....

Mmmk... 0.o

This video has been around since the day of the actual hanging. This isn't new news.

This is:

quote:
Iraqis arrest men over Saddam hanging video

NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 1:58 p.m. ET Jan 3, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq’s national security adviser told NBC News on Wednesday that three individuals have been arrested in connection with a video of Saddam Hussein’s execution that was leaked.

“I can officially now confirm the arrest of three individuals in the case of the execution of Saddam Hussein,” said Iraqi national security adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie.


Full Story: MSNBC


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-04-2007 23:03:

I won't watch the video...

It is interesting however that people are focusing more on the death of this one murderer and not the 100,000+ that he was responsible for killing.


Posted by yellow1 on Jan-04-2007 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by fairy godfather
There is an outcry about this video....yet no outcry about the execution itself....

No matter the circumstances...we can NEVER be a civilized world whilst rejoicing in the willful death of another human being.

I hope the moderator will shut this thread down!



I did not post it for ppl to gawk or get offended, I posted it because I am angry at the way "it" was handled, It was terrible and made me furious, your response substantiates the same feeling I had too. People need to see how civilization has become. and to those who want to flame me on this thread, realize the reason I posted it first.

don't push PLAY if it angers you all. Thank you!!


Posted by Cribby on Jan-04-2007 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
capital punishment is, IMHO, barbaric enough without assholes like this guy turning it into a spectacle after the fact.


quote:
Originally posted by fairy godfather
No matter the circumstances...we can NEVER be a civilized world whilst rejoicing in the willful death of another human being.


Agreed.


Posted by fairy godfather on Jan-04-2007 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by yellow1
I did not post it for ppl to gawk or get offended, I posted it because I am angry at the way "it" was handled, It was terrible and made me furious, your response substantiates the same feeling I had too. People need to see how civilization has become. and to those who want to flame me on this thread, realize the reason I posted it first.

don't push PLAY if it angers you all. Thank you!!


Glad to hear that...but maybe you should have started a discussion thread without posting the link...let people seek out youtube if they really feel the need to see the demise of another human being!

I still think it should be removed from the board!


Posted by DigDeep on Jan-04-2007 23:15:

Meh, I don't see the reason why this thread should be deleted.

Anything on youtube should be able to be posted on TA.

It's up to the individual whether or not they click on the link, and really - should we care if Sadaam is disrespected at this point? Sure it was wrong of those idiots to mock the guy on the verge of his death - but who knows how Sadaam could have possibly affected these individuals.

I did not click on the video, no interest in seeing it personally.


Posted by lopi on Jan-04-2007 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by fairy godfather
Glad to hear that...but maybe you should have started a discussion thread without posting the link...let people seek out youtube if they really feel the need to see the demise of another human being!

I still think it should be removed from the board!


I think this was said before, but if you don't want to watch it, don't. It's there if you wish to. I for one think its morbid, and upon readin the article Chris posted, am bothered by the fact that he was mocked the way he was seconds before his death. What he did was wrong. That is no excuse to taunt someone on their deathbed.


Posted by capo tutti di on Jan-04-2007 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by locodawg
A part of this clip was actually shown on the news ... dont remember which channel it was but thats how I heard it was posted.

Its sad how he got mocked right before his death...sure what he did in the past was evil, but your about the kill the dude cut him slack for at least that 5 min.


I respect your opinion but...
would you give hitler the same respect? lets be honest and look at numbers here, Saddam was a world war away from being on the same scale as hitler, we don't realize the magnitude of millions of dead people in this country (thank God) let alone the senseless and brutal killing your own people(woman and childern included) by the head of your own country.

People who have had there love ones murdered senselessly get closure by watching the execution of the person who took just 1 life like many of our neighbours in the south do, now amplify that number to the degree of hundreds of thousands, experts even put the number in millions.

IMO i believe the saying "a man will die as he lived" in saddam's case a evil, disrespectful and pitiful way.


Posted by Time2Burn on Jan-04-2007 23:51:

"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind"
- Mahatma Gandhi


Posted by lopi on Jan-05-2007 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by capo tutti di

IMO i believe the saying "a man will die as he lived" in saddam's case a evil, disrespectful and pitiful way.


I almost feel sorry for you.

IMHO everyone deserves respect, or at least silence, before they die, everyone... even Hitler. No one, NO ONE deserves mockery and disrespect.


Posted by Jer on Jan-05-2007 00:26:

If memory serves, he taunted them back.

He died bravely, but there is no excuse for anyone to belittle another man (however cruel) only moments before his death.


Posted by Swamper on Jan-05-2007 00:29:

The timing of his death being near the start of the Eid al-Adha feast just makes the timing of everything appear like a slap in the face to Sunnis.

What a mess.

As for the vid - I'll keep the thread open a bit longer and close it tonight.


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