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Access Virus. Is it worth it?

I've always been a software user. I know my DAW and my VSTi's and can get the sound I want from them. But one hardware synth has always been on my wishlist. The only synth I'd ever consider buying. The virus TI. Using a HW synth as a VSTi plugin while still being able to program in using real knobs sounds like a dream. I've also heard that it supports full automation, remembering presets.. But 1800 EURO is a lot of money. I'd have to pay for it for 2 years and it's a big step for me. The biggest hardware investment so far has been the e-mu 1212m and behringer bcf2000. So my question is: in todays world of hi quality VSTi's is it worth buying a hardware synth?
I'm sure some of you own a virus. How much do you use it these days? Also I've heard ppl tell me to go for a nord lead. is it really better any if it is, why?
One other thing.. I've got an e-mu 1212m (as mentioned) which has 1 stereo analog input and 5 digital inputs. Can the virus be connected using an optical cable? Because as far as I know it has 6 outs.
thx

P.S. I'm mostly into trance. From melodic to goa.

My virus has replaced every softsynth I've ever used.

Well worth the investment IMO if you're serious about production.

I got a virus ti, and this is how I use it. Depending what I wanna do, I have the usb connected to the computer and I run the virus control software, after finding or creating the sound I want, I press the direct monitoring function on the virus control software, and record it thru analog cables running to my converters. I also use the knobs on the synth when programing sound and stuff (not just the virus control interface). Sometimes I record it just like any other vsti. How much do I use it these days? Well all the time, It's the first synth I go to for ideas and sounds. Is it better than nord lead? I have a nord Lead 3, and it's great, but still virus offers you more.. If I had to keep only one synth out of the bunch I've got, Virus ti is the one that would stay.

Virus TI is the Formel 1 of synths.

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh My virus has replaced every softsynth I've ever used. Well worth the investment IMO if you're serious about production.

So it's versitaile enough to make and entire tune just using Virus? Bass, pads, leads, FX?

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh My virus has replaced every softsynth I've ever used. Well worth the investment IMO if you're serious about production.

I have to agree. I have used vsts since 2001. I got my Ti in Dec of last year. Ever since then. I havent touched a vst since besides the Ti's vst. This is my first piece of hardware and its just amazing.

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Originally posted by LfmC So it's versitaile enough to make and entire tune just using Virus? Bass, pads, leads, FX?

Yes.

im currently awaiting my fundage to get to the point when i can ditch my software synths and move onto the 'wall of sound'. i recon a virus is worth getting if you can afford one.

i just bought a C... haven't been sold on the TI yet just do to all the latency issues in ableton.

great synths, good support forums, recommend it!

Yes I think it's worth it. I have C for a couple years and it was my first synth. Everyone on this board told me to start with something easier but eh i figured i'd be spending more money that way so i went and bought one of the best right away lol. Don't think I will ever regret it it's the one synth I go to for everything.

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Originally posted by EliPsE Yes I think it's worth it. I have C for a couple years and it was my first synth. Everyone on this board told me to start with something easier but eh i figured i'd be spending more money that way so i went and bought one of the best right away lol. Don't think I will ever regret it it's the one synth I go to for everything.

This is very well said. I hear people say all the time: "Get something easy, virus is so complex". Ya It might be but also virus comes with enormous sound libary online, free, and than you can buy soundsets, and than you can start making your own. It will keep you busy for years to come, unlike some of the easy synths that end up on ebay, in a short time, casue you just happen to outgrow their patch creation and sonic posibilities. Why buy twice or more when you can get it right the first time. Just get it, if you don't like it try other stuff, but I am sure eaven if you worked on the virus ti for a while and than got a nord lead 3 <-- just en example... you'll be going back to the ti in a short time.. Unless Nord is something you're after. I remember writing on this board a while ago about a friend of my, who had a Ti, and sold it to go all software. Let's just keep the long story short. He purchased the virus Ti again.

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Originally posted by DJDIRTY I remember writing on this board a while ago about a friend of my, who had a Ti, and sold it to go all software. Let's just keep the long story short. He purchased the virus Ti again.

I love my Virus TI...It's a beast

I've had it a while now and just starting to program it correctly. It's the first thing I use.

If you can afford it then I don't think you will regret it

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Originally posted by DJDIRTY I also use the knobs on the synth when programing sound and stuff.

rofl.

Dude, hook your NL3 into your TI inputs.. you will never use the virus classic oscs again lawl.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja rofl. Dude, hook your NL3 into your TI inputs.. you will never use the virus classic oscs again lawl.

Oh that is so harsh(no pun intended...well you'll understsand if your a Nord User)

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Originally posted by mysticalninja rofl. Dude, hook your NL3 into your TI inputs.. you will never use the virus classic oscs again lawl.

Wow, you can do that ?

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Originally posted by Subtle Wow, you can do that ?

Yes you can. The Virus has audio inputs. You can also use the vocoder on on the input.

AAAAHHHRG!!! Just a few more days until I can put my hands on my new Virus TI.

And to the OP...
Hell yes!

Honestly?? i was not really impressed with virus ti.Why?? mainly because i am just a hobby music player and everything i need it i have found in vst'i synths.For some strange reason i find them more convenient, that's why i sold my NL3 JP8080 and TI .

siemanko
Janusz

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Originally posted by mysticalninja rofl. Dude, hook your NL3 into your TI inputs.. you will never use the virus classic oscs again lawl.

You're funny. You think I didn't know about it? It's nothing new, I use it all the time for my synths. By the way, You don't know me in real life, so If you think I am just someone new who just got a virus ti and have no clue, You're wrong. Anyways, people who are new certainly can thank you for you kindness and this information.

Thanks for the replies, guys. It looks like I'll be buying the Virus soon
Here's something I couldn't find on the access site: Virus is 16 parts multitimbral (if I read it right), but the site states that the plugin has 2 stereo (4mono) outputs. Does that mean all the synths can only be routed to one of those 2 outputs?
Also has anyone tried using it in FLStudio?

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Originally posted by mr.vegas For some strange reason i find them more convenient, that's why i sold my NL3 JP8080 and TI . siemanko Janusz

Why more convenient? Could you give me some examples? That's exacly what I wanted to know. I'm also switching from VSTi's. One of the main reasons I like the Ti is because, as far as I know, it has all the benefits of using VSTi's+ great sound + HW interface.

I think you should make tracks already, which uses the performance of what a VST`s can do. There is no point in buying a TI if you havent completed a single track, or you just have started producing.

If you are making music and you think the VSTs simply doesnt sound good enough to your liking I would have bought one, but its not a wondermachine, you still have to compose, arrange, and mix it all together.

Why more convenient? Could you give me some examples? That's exacly what I wanted to know. I'm also switching from VSTi's. One of the main reasons I like the Ti is because, as far as I know, it has all the benefits of using VSTi's+ great sound + HW interface.





first of all i am not trying convince any one to buy or not to buy virus ti,
this is your personal preference. I am just expressing myself, TI did not do it for me and quite honestly i always preferred sounds from other synths eg.Novation.
Virus TI is very innovative machine for our times but i am very satisfied with vst's sounds and it's innovative approach to computer synthesis .
"NO synths just COMPUTER" that's what i find easy and convenient for my personal needs

Janusz

Here is a song done on a virus, on one of the older models, not the b,c or ti.. just on an old virus keyboard. If you like some classic electronic music you will remember this : ) Drums are made on the virus as well.

LISTEN

Is the Virus TI worth it?

Is it worth it to buy a Ferrari? Some would say yes, others would say no. It's entirely dependent on what you find valuable. Others instead of buying a Ferrari might want to invest their money into a nice home and drive a Honda -- which would be a fine thing to do as well.

The bottom line, the person is enjoying life - the person with the Virus TI or alternative is enjoying music.

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