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Posted by Aaron C. on Aug-31-2007 15:18:

Idea Will vinyl become cool and take over?

Vinyl is still the format of choice amongst some djs.But as we all know the standard for most is now mp3s and such.Does any one see vinyl becoming popular and faddy in the near future?I've read some say that vinyl is what alot of labels are pushing,and i've always heard others say the contrary.From what i've seen many labels still produce vinyl releases while other labels have gone fully digital.I personally think lots of labels will never stop producing vinyl because it's binded to the soul of djing.

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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-31-2007 15:23:

Re: Will vinyl become cool and take over?

quote:
Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
But as we all know the standard for most is now mp3s

Erm...


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-31-2007 15:25:

Re: Will vinyl become cool and take over?

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Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
Vinyl is still the format of choice amongst some djs.But as we all know the standard for most is now mp3s and such.Does any one see vinyl becoming popular and faddy in the near future?

Probably not. It's too expensive and fewer songs are available on vinyl than on digital. I'm sure some DJs, older ones and a few new ones who like to feel connected to the "roots" of EDM in their craft, will continue to use it.

quote:
I personally think lots of labels will never stop producing vinyl...

That might be. They'll probably become rarer and rarer as the dance music market becomes more and more focused on everybody (not just DJs) buying singles / albums / etc. People want their stuff cheap.


Posted by Saint John on Aug-31-2007 15:26:

I like my vinyl. Don't use CD's and mp3's, but with scratch live and other programs where u can play mp3's on your vinyl it keeps it from being obsolete.


Posted by Whirloop on Aug-31-2007 15:28:

Hasn't this been discussed before?

Anyway, vinyl is still cool, but the sales of the same is not so cool anymore and that's what brings vinyl down. Labels seem to have much easier to survive if they deal with online shop-releases mostly because it's much cheaper way to distribute the music. No copies has to be printed, distribution reaches far beyond any local record store ect ect.

Still you don't have that feeling of owning the release since there is no physical item you buy... I know some people who have trouble cooping with that thought.


Posted by Saint John on Aug-31-2007 15:33:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Whirloop
Hasn't this been discussed before?
/QUOTE]yeah its just a slight rework of the whole CD vs Vinyl vs Computer threads.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-31-2007 15:38:

Vinyl is easy to romanticize for some reason.


Posted by Aaron C. on Aug-31-2007 15:40:

Re: Re: Will vinyl become cool and take over?

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Erm...


Ok ok maybe it's not.......wait.....but it is.


Posted by shaw on Aug-31-2007 15:41:

dapayk & padberg - black beauty


Posted by Sykonee on Aug-31-2007 15:42:

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Vinyl is easy to romanticize for some reason.

A stack of vinyl makes for a far better phallic symbol than an iPod.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-31-2007 15:43:

Re: Re: Re: Will vinyl become cool and take over?

quote:
Originally posted by Surfmorworkless
Ok ok maybe it's not.......wait.....but it is.

Is it fuck.


Posted by Saint John on Aug-31-2007 15:54:

Also when you play a vinyl record, I dont know why but it sounds better and has a different feel compared to a CD. If you only play mp3's and CD's then you tend to forget about the feeling, but it comes back.


Posted by [B-O-F-H] on Aug-31-2007 16:00:

Vinyl is still massively popular in Europe. Intergroove Germany shift thousands of copies of most of the labels they distribute, so vinyl isnt going anyway anytime soon..


Posted by chrisday on Aug-31-2007 16:40:

This is a half guess, but am I right in saying most Techno and Drum n Bass djs still use vinyl!?


Posted by Aaron C. on Aug-31-2007 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisday
This is a half guess, but am I right in saying most Techno and Drum n Bass djs still use vinyl!?


I've heard that drum & bass yes.I'm not to sure about techno.


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Aug-31-2007 18:19:

When Derrick May came to Chapel Hill, NC for the Signal gig, he and Stacey Pullen did a lecture/Q&A session before spinning. I remember Derrick doing a mini-rant about how awesome vinyl is during that lecture.

BTW, that show was one of the best shows of my life. Both Stacey and Derrick mixed perfect sets. It was a real shame that only about 30 people came in to see the pioneers of Techno do their thing...

I think vinyl will keep being used for a while yet. What has happened in the smaller scenes like the one in western NC, is that up-and-coming DJs are learning how to spin from locals that have been mixing for a long time. Since the old-timers have Tech 12s and only Tech 12s, the new DJs are still learning how to mix on only Tech 12s. I see this first-hand at the events that I hold in Hickory, when all of the Breaks DJs that I bring in bring their Techs, then ask me "How do you do it? It looks so complicated!" when they see me on the CDJs. Its the opposite for me, since I can mix well on CDJs but not on turntables (I'm a vinyl n00b ). Vinyl will truly die when the majority of the locals start using Serato and CDJs and such, so that the next generation of DJs will be learning how to mix on CDs or Serato instead of on Techs...


Posted by Alex on Aug-31-2007 18:48:

Surfer boy posts redundant ass threads


Posted by AlleN F on Aug-31-2007 19:33:

Labels are very smart with they release on mp3 and what they release on vinyl. You have so many more options using both vinyl and cdj. I don't play records, but I still buy them. Why, simply because the only way to make sets and not have the same tracklists everyone who plays the same shit they bought off Beatport. (I'm not saying everyone plays the same set, but honestly since Beatport came around tracklistings are less and less creative and by far.) The song inconspicuous mentioned Daypak & Padberg- Black Beauty is a prime example. It isn't available digitally anywhere. A label is less likely to release a shit Vinyl...but it costs NOTHING to put out an Mp3. I had a friend look at my CD case the other day, and he started freaking out asking where the hell i got them and they weren't on Beatport. I started pulling out the records...

so yes this was a long winded rant, but vinyl will always help you be original in terms of the tracks you use in sets.

the end.

ps...when an order gets in from juno or phonica i get very excited. It just isn't the same with mp3. Vynil smells so much better than an mp3.


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Aug-31-2007 19:50:

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Originally posted by AlleN F


I buy vinyl for this reason too. I don't actually play my vinyls out, ripping them and playing them on CDJs instead. There are a lot of gems to be found that simply are not available on another format. Its great for those tracks from 94 that you never heard of before that will surprise you at the record store...


Posted by AlleN F on Aug-31-2007 19:54:

Yup..and if you look carefully you can procure alot of promos this way. Some of these are never fully released. (it doesn't mean they aren't good) Beatport has made too many Dj's predictable and its kind of sad.


Posted by justin on Aug-31-2007 20:19:

I think in terms of vinyl vs digital that there are plenty more advantages to djs and listeners alike when it comes to the preference of digital format. I'm not gonna name them beacause they're so obvious.
However, I too like to believe that somehow vinyl will survive for its sentimental value alone. Its hard to convert to the norms of modern technology for those of us who have invested so much money and heart in vinyl. Its hard to accept that vinyl is regarded as a thing of the past but its necessary in order to succeed in the DJ business these days.
I will never get rid of my vinyl though because they are so unique with the cover art, label and artist names that you can actually put 'em in a frame and hang 'em on the wall. Cds are a dime a dozen. The broad variety of music available in digital technology alone renders this format mainstream in my eyes. Furthermore, any trance DJ who has never learned to use tvinyl should really consider buying a pair of techs, cuz thats what DJing was all about originally.
Like I mentioned earlier, its just a preference and everybodies opinion is different, nobodies wrong or right.


Posted by ibizzzaaa on Sep-01-2007 02:55:

I buy non-dance music on vinyl. As for dance music, well i'm stepping farther and farther away from it. But if was a dj right now, then I would burn mp3's on cd-r's. I mean I can only afford to buy 1-2 records a month at the moment. Imagine how long it will take me to have enough records for a 2 hour set . But if I could I would definitely stick to the vinyl while dj'ing.


Posted by idoru on Sep-01-2007 03:03:

Hey look! A topic that hasn't been done thousands upon thousands of times! Isn't it great to have something fresh to talk about!?


Posted by zoidborglor on Sep-01-2007 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Hey look! A topic that hasn't been done thousands upon thousands of times! Isn't it great to have something fresh to talk about!?

actually this topic has been done a lot of times. vinyl has had a pretty steady dedicated market for a while and will continue to do so.


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Sep-01-2007 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Hey look! A topic that hasn't been done thousands upon thousands of times! Isn't it great to have something fresh to talk about!?


Ah, the sweet smell of sarcasm

ibizzza hits the obvious point against vinyls. They're just too expensive, period. Why pay $18 after shipping for a tune on Juno when I can get the same tune on Beatport for $2, eBay on CD-single for $8, or PerfectBeat on CD-single for $11? There are multiple stores that are all trying to get me to buy the same song, and right now the digital stores are providing the best (cheapest) bang for my buck...


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