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Black Strobe - I'm a Man (Audion's Donation Mix)

First heard this on Sasha/Digweed's bonaroo set and loved it on first listen - awesome track.

So i went to Beatport to buy it and BAM, was hit with the territory restriction



Having trouble finding this as mp3 and im not a fan of giving my credit card details to crappy mp3 sites. Is it possible that this track will eventually become available in the UK, so i'll just have to wait? Or any other suggestions?

I tried buying it first time it came on beatport and got that message.

Just get it off soulseek, I can't see how artists can complain about that when they won't actually allow you to obtain their material legally.

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Originally posted by chesco Just get it off soulseek, I can't see how artists can complain about that when they won't actually allow you to obtain their material legally.

Hmmm, true. I would have tried dc++ already but my current internet connection doesn't allow it. Not tried soulseek in years tho, so i'll give that a shot.

Like this tune a lot. Must be a complete massacre live, still haven't heard it on a decent soundsystem.

buy the 12"

shitport restrictions. lol

I always make it a point not to pay for a high quality copy of a tune that is "Territory Restricted."

It may take an extra day or two, but in general they aren't too hard to track down, and if companies like Beatport and EDM labels in general aren't going to address the absolutely ludicrous system they have in place that leads to such restrictions, I have absolutely no ethical issues with getting a track for free.

If you aren't going to let me pay for it, I'm going to get it however I can.

Yep..usually if you complain about it in the forum, beatport will give you an alternative site to get the track from. Did you ever try going to beatport thru an international proxy? I believe their territory restrictions are based on your IP, not your CC info.

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Originally posted by placebo Yep..usually if you complain about it in the forum, beatport will give you an alternative site to get the track from. Did you ever try going to beatport thru an international proxy? I believe their territory restrictions are based on your IP, not your CC info.

Yeah, lots of people have suggested that before, but I've never tried it, nor do I know anyone who has.

I just think the practice of "territory restrictions" is in general is archaic and utterly irrelevant considering the new manner in which music is bought and sold (digital vs. hard copies).

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Originally posted by paulandrews Like this tune a lot. Must be a complete massacre live, still haven't heard it on a decent soundsystem.

heard it last june in Cocoonclub in Frankfurt, unbelievable

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Originally posted by chesco Just get it off soulseek, I can't see how artists can complain about that when they won't actually allow you to obtain their material legally.

Yeah, punish the artist for something the label does.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yeah, punish the artist for something the label does.

Right now I think it falls just as much, if not more so, upon the artist to pursue a fair means of compensation.

Record Labels don't seem to be too keen on changing much in an already biased system, nor do they really have any incentive to, so who else is going to push for change?

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Originally posted by RJT Right now I think it falls just as much, if not more so, upon the artist to pursue a fair means of compensation. Record Labels don't seem to be too keen on changing much in an already biased system, nor do they really have any incentive to, so who else is going to push for change?

Sure enough, but downloading the stuff illegally isn't going to change anything either.

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Then again there's a certain form of release (or two) that doesn't have said restrictions...

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Sure enough, but downloading the stuff illegally isn't going to change anything either.

It will change the fact that I don't have something I want and have already tried to purchase, which is reason enough for most people, and I think that's the inherent problem with the whole system of territory restrictions - they force individuals into determining ethically proper action on their own and without genuine fear of repercussions.

In that sense, "ethically proper action" usually comes down to "what's in my own best self interest?" and perpetuates media piracy.

It's a vicious cycle.

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Originally posted by RJT It will change the fact that I don't have something I want and have already tried to purchase, which is reason enough for most people, and I think that's the inherent problem with the whole system of territory restrictions - they force individuals into determining ethically proper action on their own and without genuine fear of repercussions. In that sense, "ethically proper action" usually comes down to "what's in my own best self interest?" and perpetuates media piracy. It's a vicious cycle.

Yeah, but licensing stuff for every single country in the world really isn't as straightforward as "pick the countries you want this track to be available in", there are other factors involved as well.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yeah, punish the artist for something the label does.

It's not a question of punishing anyone, it's doing whats necessary to get a tune you like.

If whats necessary is downloading it illegaly then how can people in the industry (labels, artists etc) be miffed about illegal downloads when they don't make their tracks accessible to everyone legally.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yeah, but licensing stuff for every single country in the world really isn't as straightforward as "pick the countries you want this track to be available in", there are other factors involved as well.

I understand, however with a new medium of delivery there should have been at least some serious discussion regarding how ineffective the territorial licensing system is, which it really seems there wasn't.

It seems remarkably obvious to me that this would have been something addressed at the onset of the "digital" age, rather than something it seems artists, labels, and consumers are kicking themselves for years down the line.

Don't they have it on bleep.com?

Edit: Yes they do! Try buying it there. It is cheaper there too.

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Originally posted by ibizzzaaa Don't they have it on bleep.com? Edit: Yes they do! Try buying it there. It is cheaper there too.

Re: Black Strobe - I'm a Man (Audion's Donation Mix)

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Originally posted by Quantized

Territory restriction? What the fuck for? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard lately.

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Originally posted by ibizzzaaa Don't they have it on bleep.com? Edit: Yes they do! Try buying it there. It is cheaper there too.

lol, a little late for that, i turned to the dark side and obtained it by other means...

(thanks chesco)

Also, anyone ever used bleep.com before? This is the first time i've heard of it.

bleep is the best online music store on earth!

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Originally posted by paulandrews Like this tune a lot. Must be a complete massacre live, still haven't heard it on a decent soundsystem.

Indeed it is. Hear it back in april by Dear himself

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Originally posted by Bernd_Gradish bleep is the best online music store on earth!

Yeah, if only they added new releases more often... and you could listen to a whole track without having it fade out every 30 secs. But if they added more releases it might get flooded with shite.

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Originally posted by Quantized Also, anyone ever used bleep.com before? This is the first time i've heard of it.

all the time. The selection is quite different, so if you're expecting the beatport top 10 electro-house singles, you're in the wrong place. The organization of the site blows, but being able to listen to entire tracks + the prices = win.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous The selection is quite different, so if you're expecting the beatport top 10 electro-house singles, you're in the wrong place. The organization of the site blows, but being able to listen to entire tracks + the prices = win.

totally agree

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