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sex for sale: prostitution, government, and regulation

As of late, I've become quite intrigued with some of the arguments put forth--for and against--issues pertaining to prostitution and its legal and ethical dilemmas. A conference to discuss such issues is taking place on campus tomorrow: click here for the link

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Some call it "the oldest profession in the world" . . . others call it "a form of violence against women" or "exploitation at its worst". . . still others call it "a legitimate form of labour" or even "the best damned job I've ever had!" We're talking about the most-discussed and least-understood form of sex work - prostitution.

As it stands now, I'm not entirely confident that I have a fixed position in the argument. As such, I'm curious to know what do you guys generally think?

Im all for it.




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Something that I have always wondered and its on topic...

How are escort services legal?
Same with all those ads in the back of NOW newspaper.

escorts are paying for a date. it just so happens they really like you and put out every time

as long as the person selling the sex isn't being forced into it, i don't see the problem.

If it's legal for us to have sex for free, why should it be illegal for us to accept money for it? If anything they should regulate the industry,license prostitutes, force them to collect taxes on their "fees", and "work" in licensed, safe and secure environment.

Never really understood the arguments against it.

Violence against women? I'll take $100 for you to punch me in the stomach. That's a good deal.

Exploitation? More like they're exploiting the men who can't get laid.

To me it's just another one of those things like drugs that are somehow offensive to certain people and therefore we have to ban it. I'll bet that the actual number of people is dwindling, too.

I'd blame the feminists but a lot of them seem to be in favour of it, so I really don't know who's doing the complaining.

You can only be paid for sex if its on camera.

It's so dumb, if it was legalized at least sleazy pimps wouldn't get the money.

I'm all for legalizing it. There are so many gray areas and loopholes that it's continued ban is simply confounding to me. Let the people who want to pay pay, and those who wish to be paid get paid.

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Originally posted by Intangible Something that I have always wondered and its on topic... How are escort services legal? Same with all those ads in the back of NOW newspaper.

from what I read somewhere, prostitution isn't illegal, solicitation is (running after clients and promoting themselves).

Definitely up for legalizing it. It happens anyway, so it'd be a lot better to have something more structured like the Red Light District than have hookers walking up and down the Jarvis/Gerrard area IMO. It makes for a much cleaner environment both on the streets, and at the "hooker shops"

Like Evan said, as long as they're doing it by choice and not being forced into it.

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While most the points make so far in favor of legalizing prostitution are certainly valid, I'm still sceptical about what I think is an oversimplified solution. For one, I think there is a huge liability factor that is being overlooked--which is to say, I don�t see how we can easily and legally hold people accountable for the sort of things prostitution entails, namely, abuse. If we�re going to grant the sex-work industry with all the rights available to other public sectors, i.e. unionization, benefits, protection etc...how can we impartially and LEGALLY settle a dispute between the client and the worker? Suppose for instance, that the worker demands legal action because she was physically or emotionally abused during her session--how are we to distinguish degrees of abuse, or what was consensual and what wasn�t? In short, I think there are a lot of details that have yet to be addressed in-depth, and until they are, I�m not entirely convinced by this simplified solution.

Interestingly enough though, I�m less inclined in this specific discussion to advocate a position by addressing the wishy-washy logistics. The argument I like to put forth is an entirely ethical one. With that, leaving aside logistics and logic for a minute; the one thing I have trouble with is not so much supporting legalized prostitution, but that when I�m asked a question like "...would you allow or support your daughter to become a prostitute if its completely legit?" I immediately retreat into a moral stance that I can�t seem to get out of. I guess that�s the real issue for me--I don�t want to see like a hypocrite in endorsing a concept which I myself look down upon if it was purposed to someone close in my life. I suspect I�m not the only one that feels this way, but I do have some admittedly bias views about the difference between a profession...and a profession.

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Originally posted by evil_cookie how can we impartially and LEGALLY settle a dispute between the client and the worker?

I agree it's complicated, but no more complicated than it already is with an escort service or even a plain old domestic dispute.

One way to formalize it would be to establish an implied contract, such as in retail sales. In absence of a physical, written contract, an automatic legal contract is assumed based on so-called reasonable expectations.

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...but that when I�m asked a question like "...would you allow or support your daughter to become a prostitute if its completely legit?"

There are a lot of things that I have done myself and/or think that anybody should have the right to do that I would not still support my kids doing. Those two classifications are completely different. That is the reason why minors have only an abridged set of fundamental rights - so their parents can decide what is appropriate for them and at what age (until they reach age of majority).

i would like to retort......with "boobies"

Thank you I believe my point has been made

Of course it should be legalized: as any harm reduction worker or vice law expert will tell you, the current system of prohibition in Canada is seriously endangering the safety as well as often leading to the deaths of sex trade workers--period.

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Originally posted by malek from what I read somewhere, prostitution isn't illegal, solicitation is (running after clients and promoting themselves).

Indeed, prostitution is perfectly legal in Canada... what is illegal is solicitation of prostitution and communication for the purposes of prostitution.

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Originally posted by Intangible Something that I have always wondered and its on topic... How are escort services legal? Same with all those ads in the back of NOW newspaper.

Escorts get away with it because they are selling their time, not sex. Of course sex often happens and we all know that that is what they are really selling; however, proving that the escort offered sex in exchange for money, sex took place and money was exchanged is a difficult task. Enforcing the prostitution prohibitions in the case of escorts would require an unreasonably high amount of resources for the perceived benefit to society gleaned from the same; therefore, law enforcement agencies rarely bother to investigate escort services... which makes sense... you can have your cops working serious crime or busting whores sucking off business travelers in airport hotels, up to you.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Exploitation? More like they're exploiting the men who can't get laid.

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