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Has anyone stopped doing drugs but continued clubbing?

Like many, when I go clubbing, I do pills/mdma and have done for years. For a long time since I started, I haven't thought I could go clubbing and not do anything. For any of you who do take stuff, I'm sure you'll know what I'm talking about.

Problem is, these days, I rarely want to take anything, can't be arsed with the recovery period over the next couple of days, or rocking in at 9am on a Sunday morning, my Sunday becoming a complete write-off as I fail to sleep or watch tv like a zombie.

As I've restricted the frequency of taking stuff, my nights out clubbing have also been cut down as for me, they go hand in hand.

Lately, I've been wanting to go clubbing more often again but without taking anything (getting pissed is fine) but it's difficult. All my friends still do it so the tempation and access is there. And it's not like I'm completely against drugs or had some bad experience which has put me off for life.

A few times, I've planned not to do anything but then on the night itself, I'm like "fuck it, stop being a pussy and enjoy yourself" so I cave in. Have a good night but regret it the next day and as a result, don't go clubbing again for a couple of months.

Has anyone else been in this position? Were you able to make the switch from getting fucked to just pissed or even sober? Or did you're clubbing days become less and less and slide away, along with taking stuff.

These questions aren't aimed at those who may have took something once or twice, I'm talking about those of us for who this has been an integral part of the whole clubbing experience.

Cheers

I never do drugs, and I never club.

I understand an recognize what you're saying. But if you're expecting some sort of miracle solution then i can't help you.

You just have to do it a few times. Allow yourself to get used to it again. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to go rather bitter in their post-drug partying days; not capable of dealing with the minor annoyances anymore. It's up to you to keep a solid attitude and prevent that from happening.

only do them now if i go to Beeg Kl��b

Try just doing less drugs first. I go out sober/just drink a bit in the winter when the clubs close at 2am. But in the summer when I'm at festivals and partying out doors, the party goes til 8 usually and I am usually taking a few different drugs, along with a bit of booze and smoking weed.

However, I find your logic backwards. Last weekend I went to a party til 8am and only did 1.5 pills and did not do any drinking, and went to work at 3 that evening and felt nearly fine. Drinking is what makes you feel like shit. I can recover from mdma or mushrooms no problem. My point is, drugs are fun, but being MANGLED is generally excessive and you pay for it for a long time after. So just do one or 2 pills and have a nice small buzz on. If you moderate yourself, you can still have a non-sober night and not hafta pay for it...

yo... lol... just drink booze?

Being in good shape helps

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Originally posted by daphunky1 However, I find your logic backwards. Last weekend I went to a party til 8am and only did 1.5 pills and did not do any drinking, and went to work at 3 that evening and felt nearly fine. Drinking is what makes you feel like shit. I can recover from mdma or mushrooms no problem. My point is, drugs are fun, but being MANGLED is generally excessive and you pay for it for a long time after. So just do one or 2 pills and have a nice small buzz on. If you moderate yourself, you can still have a non-sober night and not hafta pay for it...

This. Though I don't go and get mashed that often anymore, I find when I do, it's the booze that I have the hardest time recovering from, at least short-term.

As for the long-term recovery period associated with harder stuff, I used to suffer from that, but hardly anymore. It likely helps that I do it so infrequently now (maybe once every few months) that only a couple pills are needed to have a good time.

You've officially spoiled yourself from enjoying the Music naturally. You've conditioned yourself to have the MDMA alongside the Chunes, and now you cannot enjoy one without the either.

You should have been smoking some good ole Chronic and listening to the tunes. No Drugs. No Alcohol. Period.

Now you're screwed.

I think the secret is going to better parties... you know, where you don't need to be high to enjoy yourself

Used to get fucked off my head 10 years ago. But as I got older the hard shit+work could sustain its self.

Now a days a couple of beers and good beats is all I need

folks, drugs and alcohol are the abysmal method to liberation. Take a dose of Jesus and his effect will never wear off.

Is it possible to bump Jesus off the end of a key?

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Originally posted by Bierheld You just have to do it a few times. Allow yourself to get used to it again. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to go rather bitter in their post-drug partying days; not capable of dealing with the minor annoyances anymore. It's up to you to keep a solid attitude and prevent that from happening.

This seems like good advice, thanks.

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Originally posted by daphunky1 Try just doing less drugs first. I go out sober/just drink a bit in the winter when the clubs close at 2am. But in the summer when I'm at festivals and partying out doors, the party goes til 8 usually and I am usually taking a few different drugs, along with a bit of booze and smoking weed. However, I find your logic backwards. Last weekend I went to a party til 8am and only did 1.5 pills and did not do any drinking, and went to work at 3 that evening and felt nearly fine. Drinking is what makes you feel like shit. I can recover from mdma or mushrooms no problem. My point is, drugs are fun, but being MANGLED is generally excessive and you pay for it for a long time after. So just do one or 2 pills and have a nice small buzz on. If you moderate yourself, you can still have a non-sober night and not hafta pay for it...

I understand what you're saying but perhaps I've not fully explained where I'm currently at with taking stuff. For the last 18 months, I DO take it easy with the amount and don't tend to get mangled. Problem is, after the club, we all go back to someone's house for a few hours, don't get home till 8/9am then when I do go to bed, I can only manage a couple of hours regardless of how tired I feel so it fucks me up for the next couple of days.

In regards to your comment about clubs shutting at 2am in winter, in the UK, regardless of time of year, I think nearly all clubs will close at 4am or later depending on the event. This brings me to another point. The reason I first started doing stuff was mainly to give me the stamina to go all night rather than be flagging by 1am and then struggling (and not really enjoying myself) for the next two hours before giving up by 3am.

Does anyone manage to stay out late clubbing without any "help" and not have it feel like a tough endurance test where towards the end, all you want is your bed? Anyone manage this who has gone from taking stuff to going straight? Or is this a sacrifice I have to accept that realistically, my club nights out will be shorter and less "epic!"

Thanks everyone else for your thoughts and comments so far. This is a subject which has interested me as there must be 1000's of us who have gone out, taking drugs regularly, got older, laid off the drugs, and subsequently laid off the clubbing.

Anyone else successfully made the switch back to going out without taking anything?

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Originally posted by G-Con This brings me to another point. The reason I first started doing stuff was mainly to give me the stamina to go all night rather than be flagging by 1am and then struggling (and not really enjoying myself) for the next two hours before giving up by 3am. Does anyone manage to stay out late clubbing without any "help" and not have it feel like a tough endurance test where towards the end, all you want is your bed?

I almost never take drugs during a night out (I only tend to do light stuff, and usually during the after-party phase) and I definitely suffer with the stamina thing, especially if it's a 6am finish. It's the main reason I've considered taking drugs during a night out. I try and combat the "endurance test" feeling by varying it up - chat to mates, chat to randoms, go in the second room for a while. A good second room usually has slower/more chilled music than the main room, so you can sit and nod your head and chat for a bit without feeling you have to dance, which is a good way of getting some energy back.

Trouble is, your problem with ruining your Sunday isn't just the drugs. You'll still go to someone's house, still be up until 9am, still struggle to sleep properly and still be knackered as shit the next day.

would you believe that I go clubbing without doing anything? I basically don't need to do all those things just to have fun... guess I really have a strong sense of control... lol

Yeah, I never do drugs but have been clubbing (not really on the regular, it's more a once-a-month thing) for years.

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Originally posted by basilisk I think the secret is going to better parties... you know, where you don't need to be high to enjoy yourself

That or, goto parties that are great sober, and take drugs that make you enjoy good events more, not the ones that make any event the best experience ever regardless of how shit it is.

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Originally posted by G-Con Does anyone manage to stay out late clubbing without any "help" and not have it feel like a tough endurance test where towards the end, all you want is your bed?

i was sober for half a year and had no problems clubbing very late, so of course it's possible

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Trouble is, your problem with ruining your Sunday isn't just the drugs. You'll still go to someone's house, still be up until 9am, still struggle to sleep properly and still be knackered as shit the next day.

Nah, going back to someone's house and staying up is linked with taking drugs. When we leave the club, we're all wide awake, chatting away and going to bed is the last thing on our minds so we all go back somewhere together for an afterparty.

If I hadn't taken anything, then I'd be ready to call it a night when I've left the club and be tired enough that I'd fall asleep the second my head hit the pillow. Instead, the routine ends up being to leave the club at 5ish, go back to a mates house for a few hours, then go to bed. Spend an hour trying to drift off (even though I've come down a while ago), finally fall asleep, wake up 2-3 hours later still tired but awake, knowing I won't be able to sleep again for the rest of the day.

The problem I find with taking stuff is it can become an "all or nothing" situation. I've tried before to just take a couple of bombs then going home straight after the club but it never works out that way. And god help me when trying to reason with myself whilst under the influence...

This is why I'm in the position of either learning to take nothing at all or only going clubbing a few times a year...

About going to good parties, therefore not needing anything...

Do any of us deliberately choose to go somewhere average/shit relying on pills to make it a good night?

We always choose events that we think will be really good. Whether they turn out to be as good as we hoped is another matter.

Eh. Never done drugs to party. (well, except some alcohol) 7 years and still going strong. Though we'll see when 30 hits soon enough.

If the music is good enough, I have a good time. Is drugs really that necessary?

The short answer is: YES

It if - of course - totally possible, but what seemed so great and mind-blowing during those chemically-enhanced states may not feel so great with a straight head, whether we are talking about the music, the venue or one's friends.

YMMV

Why is this on Music Discussion? Shouldn't be on Chill Out?

No problem at all, never needed drugs at all, not counting alcohol, but even that in my early clubbing days I could do without (someone needed to drive).
Even my friends who spend half the night on the dance floor didn't need drucs, although probably everybody thought they had taken way too much.
The older we got the later we went, probably close to midnight. Time to go home was when the lights went on in the morning. When going out to Belgium clubs, going home also meant an hour drive, so by the time we arrived at home the only thing we could think about was sleep.
Going out on Friday and Saturday unfortunatly resulted in being tired for some days, but it was worth it.

On Saturday mostly we went to a big club with serveral area's. Like System-J says taking a break and relax a little can help you to get new energy.

My friends drank a lot of coffee at home before they went, think that also helps to stay awake. When I didn't drink beer, cola probably had the same result. When drinking beer I forgot that I was tired, until the day after and my ears were recovering all day long.

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